My Sunday column is about Vin Scully, who says in it that he is not sure whether he will be back at the mike for the 2009 season.
Why didn't I rush this information into the paper or onto the Web when he said it to me Tuesday night? Because I had heard him say similar things in a couple of electronic media interviews, and I knew he had said such things in the past without actually retiring.
Still, such is the reverence for Vin that when The New York Times posted a short story about Scully's ambivalence regarding the future, it caused quite a stir in SoCal.
Click below for some of the quality stuff from Scully that didn't make it into the paper, beginning with a poignant description of a painting of the Polo Grounds.
Despite his long association with the Dodgers and thus with Ebbets Field and Dodger Stadium, he retains an emotional attachment to the New York Giants and Polo Grounds, the team and ballpark of his youth.
Scully on a print of a Polo Grounds painting he has at home:
"When Shea Stadium first opened, Mrs. Payson owned the ball club. Where the press box is now was a room covered with oil paintings. I saw one and I felt like I had been kicked in the stomach.
"It was as if the artist was sitting in a box seat behind home plate at the old Polo Grounds, where I really grew up, and it’s all dark umbers and dark greens and the eye takes you out toward centerfield, because there’s a light in the clubhouse.
"There are two men standing there talking in street clothes. Now the sun is just starting to change the coloration of the sky, so your eye naturally now starts to go up the clubhouse and as the sky is brightening, you realize there is a huge derrick, and hanging from it is the destruction ball, and you realize when the sun goes up they’re going to knock down the ballpark.
"So if you want to talk about how you feel when an old ballpark goes, that’s the way I feel. That really touched me. I couldn't buy the oil, but thanks to Ralph Kiner, Mrs. Payson had a print made and framed and gave it to me and I have it to this day."
Scully on Joe Torre coming to L.A.: "Oh, you know Joe. He’ll fit in anywhere. And I’ve known him for 40 years as a player, later on when he was managing, the Mets and Cardinals. It’s great. They had a place for him and he’s a perfect fit."
Scully on sleep problems affecting him: "Although I heard 60 percent of Americans have trouble sleeping, the older you get, and the travel complicates matter with the time zones, sleep and lack of sleep seems to me plays a big part in the way your perform."
Scully on why he works alone: "It goes back to Brooklyn with Red Barber and Connie Desmond and back to New York, period. In the old days, you had Mel Allen and Curt Gowdy, and you had Russ Hodges and Ernie Harwell, and you had Red Barber and Connie Desmond.
"There was never any interplay on the air. I know Red always felt one man, one voice, and the more I thought about that when we were moving out to California, and this is probably very simplistic, but it works.
"If I want to sell you a car, is it more effective for me to talk directly to you about the merits of the car or do you think you’d be more inclined listening to me talk to somebody else about the car? The network is strictly interested in selling soap, where the local broadcast your whole idea is to get people in the ballpark. I’ve found it just makes more sense, one man, one voice, and - sell."
Scully on his old neighborhood in Washington Heights: "It was a wonderful neighborhood growing up. In those days it was basically Jewish, European Jews fleeing Hitler. And they were hard working people. Doors were wide open. It was a wonderful area to grow up."
Scully on why he rarely listens to other announcers: "I'm not a listener. It’s not ego at all. But Red Barber gave me a bit of advice when I first joined him and he said you shouldn’t listen to other broadcasters because you bring something into the booth that no one else has.
"And I looked at him and I thought what the heck do I have just out of college, and he said yourself, there’s no one else like you. He didn’t want me to consciously or subconsciously borrow tonal effect or whatever. So I don’t listen. Whatever comes out of me is me, it’s pure original, good bad or indifferent."
Scully on being honored by his alma mater, Fordham: "Back in about 2001 or 2000 when they invited me to give the commencement address I was in shock. I did that with kind of a smile in my heart looking at these fellows and girls sitting where I sat a long time ago."
More on Scully rarely watching or listening to games he is not working: "I'm not really a fan. That has long since gone. I might turn on an SC football game. I watched the last three minutes of the Super Bowl. I have 18 grandchildren, and everyone was in one house. As Eli was performing his magic, everything stopped."
Scully on Al Campanis: "Al and I roomed together for several years in Vero Beach. It's really one of life's tragedies what happened to him. When you say Al Campanis, my heart winces."
Scully on his favorite announcer when he was a child: "When I was growing up, I thought the No. 1 announcer in tonal quality was Ted Husing. His command of the language really made an impression, even on a little kid growing up."
Comments (12)
At 81, he's still the best.
Neil,
Great piece. Vin Scully is definitely a national treasure. I grew up in Washington Heights in the early sixties, well after the Dodgers moved to LA, but I did go to the Polo Grounds to see the Mets in the pre-Shea days. I don't recall hearing much of Vin personally, unless it was on a rare (in those days) national broadcast. His brother, Jim, still lived in the Heights back then, and I knew him from being a lector at our parish church (If I recall, he was also an usher at Yankee Stadium), and two of his sons from day camp. I do remember that Vin's reputation and renown were already well established back then.
I don't know if there is a waiting period for inducting broadcasters into the BB Hall of Fame, but if there is, it definitely should be waived when Vic Scully finally does retire.
And that retirement can be whenever he wants.
Denis,
Vin has been a member of the Hall for quite some time. He was honored with the Ford Frick Award (for broadcasters) in 1982.
Only Mel Allen, Red Barber, Bob Elson, Russ Hodges and Ernie Harwell were honored prior to Scully.
Denis/Eric:
That last visit to Washington Heights that Scully refers to in the post actually came in 1982, on his way back through NYC with this family from Cooperstown.
I would listen to Scully describe paint drying.
As I just posted under your artilce...are you really breaking news here...an 80 year old man who has been working sixty years might be strongly considering retirement...wow! I am shocked! By the way if you are not 55+ you don't care!
Coach Coughlin did not write that last entry.
It's good to know that Coughlin isn't that stupid.
As a Mets fan who watched the Mets-Red Sox series on NBC in 1986, it's impossible to think back to that series without hearing Vin Scully's voice. He was amazing and he is truly one of a kind.
That quote about Eli was absolute gold. At least some part of his heart stuck in New York as a fan.
The thing I remember most about Vin Scully is hearing his voice in the background of Mets vs. Dodgers games in LA because back in the sixties everybody brought transistor radios out to the game and you could very clearly hear his play-by-play underneath Murphy, Nelson and Kiner's.
Listening to him now on MLB Extra Innings where he broadcasts Dodgers games by himself is still a treat, even though he isn't quite what he used to be. He is still better than 95% of the guys broadcasting games today, though.
Eric (and Neil), my bad. Thanks for the clarification. I think I was reminiscing more on the Washington Heights aspect and didn't completely follow up with a visit to the HoF website. Interesting that they make the distiction that these are 'award recipients' rather than inductees.
NB - Thanks for this. As Way Under said up above, the '86 series with Vin is forever in my memory log...but it helps that when I turn off my computer at work everynight, it says...
"Little roller up along first...behind the bag! It gets through Buckner! Here comes Knight and the Mets win it!"
Also, as Sandy said, thank God for MLB Extra Innings. I am a huge Mets fan and love Gary, Ron & Keith but I love when the Mets are in LA and the only feed I get is LA's (I don't live in the tri-state area, so I rely on the computer). I learn so much listening to him about players, that I can't wait for them to play the Dodgers (looking forward to the next three nights). Heck, even when the Mets aren't in LA, I will turn on the Dodgers just to listen to him.