The Knicks Fix

Could we move on already!
I wonder if Donnie would ever hold Marbury, and then trade him at the deadline for some top tier player and a high pick.
I really hope that we don't buy him out.
I we don't get something for him, let his contract expire, and don
t give him the opportunity to play till next season.
I bet he's deen his last god contract.

Could we move on already!
I wonder if Donnie would ever hold Marbury, and then trade him at the deadline for some top tier player and a high pick.
I really hope that we don't buy him out.
I we don't get something for him, let his contract expire, and don
t give him the opportunity to play till next season.
I bet he's deen his last good contract.

Please forgive my typos.

What a glorious day it will be when Marbury gets bought out and we can stop having all of these Marbury blogs. Bottom line we lose with or without Marbury.

Am I crazy here or would Damon Jones be a decent backup PG. His ego is huge, he loves to talk, and he doesn't play any D, he'll fight right in.

that's 5 of 6 wins per year, which is a big deal in an 82 game season

I am sure superstars are even more but that difference in winning is meaningful.

that difference is only meaningful if it's from say 42 wins to 48 wins, or 54 wins to 60 wins... when those extra wins are going from 26 wins to 32 wins, all you're doing is shooting your team in the draft position foot!

how about Marbury for Jermaine ONeil and the rights to DelFino?

Oneil Expires next year and is a match salary wise.

Alan you should remove Marbury from 2004/2005 and dont consider this season either since he didnt miss/play a game. Only look at the seasons he actually played and missed games in 2005/06, 2006/07, 2007/08. The winning percentages with and without him will be close to equal. What does that say about a guy paid 16-20 mill a year?

Too many variables and too much chaos to numerically evaluate Starby's effect on the team.

Is Walsh lazing back this week or working on buying Starby out? I wonder what Walsh does all day.

Most exciting thing coming down is to find out who Starby sez actualy wants him. Can hardly wait to find out if he's joking or not. I'll bet he's delusional and he ends up in Italy.

DTR

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its not that people really want MARBURY on the team,its so much more than just that..1)the knicks said that they wouldnt LIE to us anymore,and we still have no idea why STEPH was on the bench,and then exiled(although we all know hes a scumbag !)the knicks idea of pretending they are media friendly is to wire up nate and listen to him sing for a whole game.what a joke!they make that ridiculous trade for tim thomas,and tell us they didnt know about cuttinos heart .as soon as they found out about it they should have canceled the trade2)2010 is not for 2 more seasons,they coulda held on to a stat machine like zach,and gotten so much more for him at the trading deadlinethey have no inside presence.use to be when the shots werent falling they could throw it in to zach and get the other teams dee to go down low.now they have nobody.david lee is not a viable option.and hes much better as a 6th or 7th man!holding onto marbury instead of cutting or playing him has just added to the roster spot problem.ROBERSON WAS A HUGE MISTAKE.if they were really gonna be honest with us ,at least admit that you have made several miscuesFACE THE TEAM IS JUST AS BAD NOW AS IT WAS LAST YEAR WITH ZEKE.the lying is the same ,the bone head moves are the same,and the won and lost record are the same!people keep saying 2010,2010.what happens when LBJ resigns with the CAVS or BOSH blows out a knee,and Nash inches closer to 40 yrs of age,dirk breaks down as often as my GREMLIN,and WADE will probably stay in miami.having said that,is there anyone left,that can do what Z-BO can do?.its 2010,and you have lots of cap space,gallinari still has a bad back,and the knicks just redrafted FRED WEISS..all of the future free agents sign with someone else and a few have had bad injuries .WHAT DO WE DO NOW?

its not that people really want MARBURY on the team,its so much more than just that..1)the knicks said that they wouldnt LIE to us anymore,and we still have no idea why STEPH was on the bench,and then exiled(although we all know hes a scumbag !)the knicks idea of pretending they are media friendly is to wire up nate and listen to him sing for a whole game.what a joke!they make that ridiculous trade for tim thomas,and tell us they didnt know about cuttinos heart .as soon as they found out about it they should have canceled the trade2)2010 is not for 2 more seasons,they coulda held on to a stat machine like zach,and gotten so much more for him at the trading deadlinethey have no inside presence.use to be when the shots werent falling they could throw it in to zach and get the other teams dee to go down low.now they have nobody.david lee is not a viable option.and hes much better as a 6th or 7th man!holding onto marbury instead of cutting or playing him has just added to the roster spot problem.ROBERSON WAS A HUGE MISTAKE.if they were really gonna be honest with us ,at least admit that you have made several miscuesFACE THE TEAM IS JUST AS BAD NOW AS IT WAS LAST YEAR WITH ZEKE.the lying is the same ,the bone head moves are the same,and the won and lost record are the same!people keep saying 2010,2010.what happens when LBJ resigns with the CAVS or BOSH blows out a knee,and Nash inches closer to 40 yrs of age,dirk breaks down as often as my GREMLIN,and WADE will probably stay in miami.having said that,is there anyone left,that can do what Z-BO can do?.its 2010,and you have lots of cap space,gallinari still has a bad back,and the knicks just redrafted FRED WEISS..all of the future free agents sign with someone else and a few have had bad injuries .WHAT DO WE DO NOW?

HOWARD "BUTCH"KOMIVES, pleaes go back to the Isiah era where you belong. You do not know the meaning of patience.

Sorry Alan, your math is actully very wrong. First of all, under your assumptions the correct difference is 2.088 games, which like John said is 5 or 6 games a year and actually is a big deal. However, as Mike said, you should probably not look at seasons during which he played every game or didn't play at all, but contrary to Mike's conclusion this actually increases his effect to about .080. But even that isn't really very mathematically correct, because he can have a different effect on teams in different seasons, and year by year numbers are probably better to look at. I think the best thing you can determine from these numbers is that by looking at only the two seasons where he both played in and missed a significant number of games (05-06 and 07-08), the team did better in whichever situation was more common (05-06 he played a majority of the games and they did better with him, and 07-08 he missed a majority of games and they did better without him). I think this is due to the advantage of continuity (i.e. missing a star player is a big deal when a lot of your plays are designed for him, you are used to practicing with him, etc.). So it doesn't make sense to apply any of the trends to this year, when it was pretty certain from the beginning that he wouldn't play. Judging from their ability to play well without him last year (.293 winning pct without him vs. .250 winning pct with him), I would say that this team is probably doing about the same or better than they would be if Marbury were playing.

Hahn your point has been made...but what was KG's winning percentage when they fired Casey in T-Land, the team sucked with him and when they traded him they sucked still, but the Celtics he was just what they needed and they were exactly what he needed. Marbury has talent and just needs a new team, if S-Jax/Artest can be cheered again why can't Marbury? The Knicks record shows that they have had little talent to surround Marbury, very little. Everyone knows the truth now about Eddy Curry, he is a waste of space, Everyone Knows the truth about Q-Rich, Jamal, Jefferies add Jerome James or Malik. This is what Marbury had to work with and witout defending his character...it would take a lot more than character to make these guys a winner. Dantoni is using the wrong style and it is obvious, he needs so many less threes and more Dee so yes Hahn you are right but you are wrong too...Marbury is not going to change this losing, but it is still not his fault that this mess is still such a mess.

Alan, your calculations are not quite right. 88 wins out of 239 games means they won 36.8% of their games. 35 wins out of 118 games means they won 29.7% of those games. So the difference should then be 7.2% (rounded up from 7.15%). The 0.072 you quoted as a percentage is really a decimal. .072, as a decimal, is equivalent to 7.2%. But .072% is the same as the decimal .00072. Trust me, I'm a Math teacher, who also coaches HS basketball here in Australia. And I don't want Marbury back under any circumstances.

Who cares about winning when you have to sell your sole to win? I would rather lose than to have to watch that slime ball, back stabbing low life play for my team.

If not for the NBA the man would be homeless or institutionalized.

WHOin hell is gonna give us jermaine o'niel if they know they can get marbury for FREE SOON?

Well BUTCH.. if Walsh goes around telling everyone his plan he may not get something like that done...

First, The team has the where with all to keep Marbury on the roster and let him rot the whole year
Second..
Teams routinely trade for players who would otherwise be released so they can get the expiring salary off their cap. Toronto would be well served to have 20 mil coming off this year and put someone big time with Bosh so he wont leave. The Raptors dont want Marbury to play him.. they want him for his expiring deal .. what is so hard about that to understand

to clarify my first point.. The team i refer to is the Knicks.. they dont necessarily have to cut or buy out Marbury this year. He can continue to collect his checks until the contract expires and the dollars come off the cap.

Alan,

Personally from my standpoint, since I'm the one who seems to have initiated the Steph chatter, I didn't mean to make this losing streak about Steph in no shape or form. Take Marbury's name out the equation and just plug in player X, player X potentially being Rose, or James, or any other healthy player on the roster. My point is simple and I believe full of logic, if you are going to reduce a rotation length BY CHOICE, then there should not be any excuses made about there not being enough players available or them having to get healthy, period end of story. That's a built in excuse that only helps to buy Dantoni the time he will need to help turn things around.

Of course its never about one person, although this is chatter about the round ball, when you look over in East Rutherford you will find a football team that just finished 12-4 without several of its star players from their recent Superbowl run, its ALWAYS about the sum of the parts and NEVER about one particular player unless your name is Michael Jordan. The Lakers with the best player in the world still saw themselves struggling to keep said player because they couldnt fit the right pieces around him. They finally did that and look what has happened.

Not to stay on the Marbury subject but since you felt compelled to fact check some win/loss stats I brought up which was fine, can you honestly say that since Marbury joined the team, the GM in this case Zeke ever put the right players around Steph to maximize his talents? I seem to recall several butterfingers over the years from the "dominant" Eddy Curry, and hes only one miscue out of many. Since Marbury came here he's had more than 4 coaches and 4 different philosophies, there was never any consistent PLAN while he was here, it went from working from the outside in because this is a "guard's league" to traditional half court dump the ball to the big man offense to potentially running a small ball offense. My point is and has always been to stop placing the blame on any one particular player, but to focus on the head, if you cut off the head then the rest of the body will go. DOLAN is the issue here but I cant expect you to comment on him because he is YOUR boss.

The organization as a whole has done a horrible job in finding a direction for this team and they continue to do so. It's fun to point to all the "great" things Walsh has done so far, but why don't we look at the miscues as well.

1. Didn't find a home for Marbury in the offseason which now seems to be a 2 million dollar mistake based on how far apart they currently are in negotiations.

2. Drafted a player who wasnt ready to contribute now with the #6 overall pick, a pick Walsh clearly said they couldn't mess up. I'm not calling Gallo a bust, but a more established, ready to play type of player would have been more beneficial to this team in my humble opinion

3. Signed a guard who has been a D Leaguer is entire career, pumped him up to be the next Eddie House only to see him rot on the bench when the team is in obvious need of guard play.

I could go on and on. Danphony took it upon himself to play GM and sit Steph the first game when it was clear Walsh wanted him to play to increase his trade value. I'll give it to Walsh on trading Zach and Crawford, it fit the long term plan perfectly. But think about it, if Danphony could have given Steph the opportunity to play so that teams could see how he's recovered from injury and how he fits the system, if Danphony could have just put on a little bit of a front like how much he likes Steph and how good of a person he is, Walsh could have very well found a home for him by now as well.

This goes back to the several miscues within the organization that run rampant, but I know Dolan is your boss so these are things you are not allowed to discuss.

Just bloggin.

Biggie have you seen O'Neal play this year. Guy looks washed up and one fall away from a career ending injury. I know his salary ends in 2010 but I don't know if he would provide that much help to us this year and def would not be in the plans in 2010. We may be better served just letting Marbury come off the books and signing a project to that roster spot next year. I like your thinking though about getting a tough physical shot blocker who can hit a 15ft jumper and hates to lose.

@ NYC: Marbury had star talent around him in PHX and couldn't win there, but Nash ended up doing just fine there. What about the talent around Marbury in NJ that he couldn't win with, that same team played pretty good when J. Kidd got there didn't it. This team was average to slightly below average pre-Steph. After Steph we became the laughing stock of the league. Even Minn got better after he left but I hate bringing up that situation because he was young and not there long enough. Steph just is not a winning player irregardless fo the situation. Walsh's mistake was not buying him out in the offseason.

Now, you are absolutely correct about the talent on this team and overextending our current players. The talent needs a serious upgrade and at least one star to build around. Which is what made last years draft pick so bafffling. Can't turn back hands of time though.

This team needs a new best player. Steph was suppose to be that guy we looked for leadership down the stretch of games like Mello gives to the Nuggets. We need a center piece to build around. We had Ewing to build a team around. This should be a rebuilding year. Most people are sobbing like its the end of the world. Our expectations for the first time in a while are low - good. We need to work on releasing players to clear cap and try out young talent. I would play a line up just to see how they would perform.

Gallinari - SF
Chandler - SG
Duhon - PG
Ewing Jr. - PF
- Go after a D-League center for a half a year using our player exception.

yes K4L.. ONeill has spit the bit this year no question.. I think he has been hurt and has not fit into the Toronto thing.

All that said he is averaging almost 2 blocks a game in 30 minutes of PT>. Im not making him out to be the answer as a 2010 piece -- just a place holder and a way to get Marbury off the roster and potentially add DeFino's rights.

@ NYC -- you had me for a few lines.. Coach D has totally been runnign a short rotation by choice for the most part. But to address your points..

1. No one was taking Marbury in the off season. He was coming off an injury plagued year and had foot surgery.

2. Who knew Gallow would run into a tractor -- literally - in Summer LEague. He looked like he could have contributed in the time I saw hit run the floor, handle the ball and shoot the rock.

3. spot on.. bad move and it needs to be addressed ASAP./

Ill say it one last time .. No one wants steph for his basketball skills. they all want him for his expiring 21 million dollar deal. I doubt he has any interest from other teams and will most likely end up in Italy or somewhere like that.

If Toronto took him in the above scenario he would probably be bought out within 30 days.

NYC (BK/LI/QU) is right on point.

By the way....

Jarred Jeffries is the worse signing in the history of the Knicks
Organization.

The way he sits there and smiles on the bench playing games
with everybody...then he comes in the game and f's up almost
everytime down the floor is disgusting.

Once again I say...

Jarred Jeffries is the worse signing in the history of the Knicks
Organization.

@Knicks4life,

Ok what star talent did Marbury have in Phoenix aside from Marion? A rookie in Amare? I agree year he took Phoenix to the playoffs and forced the Spurs into a longer series than expected, he did have some decent pieces around him. After that we was traded about 20+ games into the season. Name the talent around Marbury in Jersey? Nash came to a much better team than the one Steph left simply because Nash came to a team that was changing its style of play built around Nash's strengths. Phoenix management hasn't been a model of success either unless you consider regular season success the goal for an NBA team. The best thing they did for themselves was sign Danphony who fit what they were trying to do at the time, we see how that marraige ended.

I agree with you to an extent that Marbury isn't a winning player, however after seeing a "losing" player like KG win a chip and enter into a situation built around his skill set, I'm leaning towards believing Marbury just needs to be released so that he can find another home.

@BiggieSmalls, I wasn't suggesting they trade Marbury in the offseason, simply waive him, give him all his money and let him go on his merry way. But Dolan isn't about to give Marbury is full salary after what happened off the court last year, this is all Dolan spiting Steph for his own selfish reasons. LET HIM GO. Waive him, move on, should have been done in the offseason, not any of this everyone starts with a clean slate nonsense Walsh was spewing. My thing is Walsh is a decent poker player, had Danphony stepped aside and let Walsh do his job, Steph would be gone by now. Before Walsh came everyone in the league laughed at the notion that a team would trade for any Knick player. Well Walsh got rid of two of them, at a steep price for the buying team. My point is Danphony should have stayed in his lane and let Walsh work his magic, the problem was they weren't on the same page. They had different philosophies on how to handle Steph, as well as how to handle Jamal. While Danphony is considering Jamal as a long term key to his plans, Walsh was planning to hand those keys to someone else all along. Again signs of a dysfunctional organization continuing to do what they do best.

@NYC -- Where you said Walsh "Didn't find a home for Marbury in the offseason " I assumed that meant a trade. Maybe you meant a physical house or something else.

Buying out Marbury in the off season would be a waste of a potential asset for a trade. Why should Walsh have thrown that away unless Marbury was going to give back serious coin. And by Marbury's negotiating tactic of wanting every penny of what he is owed that seemed unlikely.

I agree that there was a mis communication on the use of #3 once the season started and that is on D'Antoni. It is not a critical issue for the long term and really nothing that I would dwell on. Once MD and Walsh got together and talked it out they were on the same page.

I’ll agree with Marburry being a malcontent but I disagree with Marburry being in the line up wouldn’t make a difference. The style of play which was implement by Larry Brown and then Isiah was to feed the fat bastard at the expense of the team winning and losing. He never got a chance (maybe with Lenny) to play in this up tempo, come up the court and launch three system. I think with Marburry being in great physical shape and with the ability to get his own shot off would have been fine in this system. Now if they would have won more games, I can’t say because with this opposing team lay-up drill to our basket, the problem with them is they can’t play defense (no shot blocker). All in all Mike D’Antioni did him dirty. Didn’t give him a fair shot to hold his starting spot, then lead him to believe, okay you won’t start but that doesn’t matter let me see what you can do in preseason. Starts him once in preseason, then opening night DNP him, IN HIS HOME TOWN. Then goes on PTI (Pardon the interruption) and says were going in a different direction. Then when all his player are falling down around him says if you want to play you can play. Would you have played? Given the option I would have told him no thank you either. Enough with this team player crap, he diss him now you want him. Yea he’s making $21M, but then don’t give him the option. And can some one tell Q-Brick to please shut up and mind your own business. Q-Brick play consistently and hit an open 3, and then maybe you can talk.

aaaaauuuuuuurrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(you're killing me alan....i'm starting to take this personally!).

i can't believe i am getting sucked into this thread.

THE ULTIMATE DEFINITION OF LIFE IN HELL: DEBATING THE MERITS OF A "STAR" POINT GUARD WHO AVERAGED 30 WINS OUT OF EVERY 82 GAMES PLAYED FOR HIS TEAM.

guys, it's so obvious. marbury's time with the knicks can only be categorized as an abysmal failure. can we PLEASE move on?

Everybody knows Steph was done dirty.
It's not even an argument.

Walsh and Dantoni were not on the same page and it's obvious.

terrible....just terrible

Stephon who?

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@Sec11: I can't believe I let myself get sucked into this thread either. This is hilarious. The Knix have no team and no games worth talking about....this blog is like a buncha rats arguing about which chunk of rotten cheese is better than the other.

@DaJoka: I didn't get it the first 99 times. Who did u say is the worst signing in Knick history?

@NYC: When does the book come out?

@AR: Ewing Jr. was a mediocre college player and he has no offensive game or pro experience. You think he is good enough to start in the NBA when no team even wants him as the 15th guy on their roster? He's a scrub, a garbage time player at best. Optimistically, he might be the 2nd coming of Hawthorne Wingo, or Ken "the Animal" Bannister, or Nick Fotiu.

@Howie "Butch" Komives: Where da hell ya been the last 40 years? Hanging out with Alfred "Butch" Beard?

DTR

Ewing Jr. may not have a polished game but he can bring energy like Balkman gave us and in the preseason he showed he can get a steals in important parts of the game.

Oh and he has hops too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meTt3CmaQ64

Check out this clip on D Gallo in the summer league. I notice he has some tendencies to score in bunches like J Craw use to. I don't think he lacks any confidence shooting or will it will ever be a problem for this kid. Meaning if they say hit one from the locker room he would probably give it a try.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBMh7G10zvk

Just so we are clear, Marbury would never have been the PG in this system. He dribbles too much and does not pass the ball. He averaged 8.5 PPG once season because he would get double teamed and have to give the ball up. I used to be a big Steph fan, even back at GT and watched many of his games. He was a truly great scoring guard but he just isn't unselfish enough to be a PG. He also never played D consistently. His best bet at succeeding in the NBA at this point is as a 6th man scoring guard off the bench.

KG went to the playoffs how many years in a row in Minn? And he went to the Western Conference Finals when he finally got help in Spree and Sam. KG makes all his teamates much better. Please don't compare him and Steph its not even close.

I'm a big believer in personal responsibility. Excuses are the tools of the weak. At some point its not about everyone around me, it is about me.

Ok Sec 11, I'm done.

This is officialy TEAM TITANIC 3. They are more entertaining off the court than on the court. It is a soap opera.

NYC- You have alot of good points. I am sure Alan agrees with you, if only his boss would allow him to say it.

BTW- The Jets collapse, Farve, Mangini...Marbury's fault!!!

just bloggin....

Lets examine the bigger bust Jerome James vs. Jarred Jeffries:

James is a fat bastard who laughs all day long on the bench while his team loses. He was last seen hugging and consoling Chris Duhon after Duhon got cut over his eye. His most memoriable moment as a Knick was a fight with the mighty Nate Robinson. All of his nicknames here at the Fix revolve around food.

Jeffries is just a terrible offensive player who averages awkward monkey faces every twenty seconds he is on the court. I still can't believe he is a Knick. I remember reading about him getting routinely punked by two white chicks in college. He has no memorable moments as a Knick that don't involve airballs from 15 ft.

At least Jeffries plays. Winner James.

some would argue that by playing Jeffries is actually doing harm to the team where James is just atking up a seat at the end of the bench.

Of course Jeffries actually works on his game and dedicates time in teh off season to working out and not visiting every buffet line in Vegas.

James still wins.

@Knicks4Life: Excellent analysis. We'll have to nominate you for a Nobel Prize and petition the Elias Sports Bureau to start tracking AMFs per minute as an official stat. Here's a hint why J-Snax laughs to much: $$$$$$$$ for doing nothing, front row seats to every game and free post-game snax.

DTR

i guesstimate that 1 out of every 3 FIXERS has or had a better game than JEFFRIES.

JAMES wins.

I'm going to have to go with Jeffries as the worst signing. Why? Because every year we have to hear about his improved jump shot that he learned in some NASA hoops facility sponsored by his agent and if you're stupid like me, you buy it... until you actually see those horrendous bricks a flyin'. The whole team should pile on him every time he shoots outside of 3 feet (and it seems 20 feet is his preferred shot of choice).

I'm excited about Gallo getting back soon. I think it may be a blessing in disguise for him to arrive now. There's not going to be a lot of pressure on the kid (he is young), and hopefully he can get his feet wet and have some fun. NY is a tough town on rookies, especially picks this high.

I would have to agree that James (JJ1) was definitely a worst signing than Jefferies (JJ2). Or in mathematical terms, JJ1>JJ2. LOL.

I think when James gets on the court, he at least gives us
something. Who could forget when he get in the game a few
weeks back and the whole bench was cheering for him? How
about the time when he came in and scored 6 quick points in
like 5 minutes? How about last year when he was bringing the
ball up on a break and showed us his ball handling skills by
going around the back and between the legs?
Of course when he gets in the game he's going to look slow
because he never plays. When he was in Seattle doing all that
damage, he was in game shape. Even though game shape for him
might be out of shape weight for other players. He has to get used
to running up and down the floor again. If Dantoni wasn't so
stingy, he would use James in spurts. He should've put him in
late 4th quarter against the Suns and the Lakers. You could
never have to many big bodies and we're settling for none?
GTFOH

Looks like Steph isn't going anywhere including the negotiating
table until that 400K fine gets wiped out.
I told you...Donnie needs to stop thinking like a lawyer for once
and understand who he's dealing with. The guy has no agent,
that should tell you something.

Pay him his money Donnie!!!!

Alan, I appreciate your response and the point of view you expressed via email, it makes sense what you said. I just personally wish things could have been handled differently but again this is all revisionist history just for the sake of argument, but I understand your point, new year, move forward. I hope you didn't take my shots at you as a sign of disrespect, I was of course being sarcastic. You're right this is painful, but there is at least a plan, something Zeke never developed the 4 years he was head honcho. I agree in order to reverse course from the previous regime it only makes sense to support the new one. I'm here to stay Alan, you'll be hearing a lot more from me going forward, pun intended.

to AR.We dont need anymore average playing energy guys(ewing)what we need now ais a GO TO GUY!we lost 2 of them when we made the Z-bo and jamal trades!

OK James "Baby" Dolan! Your puppet has made your position very clear.

But here are the facts. Marbury is a slime ball but in D'Antony's system he would shine with 20+ and 8+ a game. That often would be the difference between winning and losing.

Plus if you played him, you would raise his value and be able to trade him for a quality player or two.

Instead you cut of your nose to spite your face. JD you are a fool! Just sell the Knicks. We fans have had enough of you. You turned the Knicks to dung and Alan Hahn into your puppet.

Alan please get out of here before your reputation is ruined.

OK James "Baby" Dolan! Your puppet has made your position very clear.

But here are the facts. Marbury is a slime ball but in D'Antony's system he would shine with 20+ and 8+ a game. That often would be the difference between winning and losing.

Plus if you played him, you would raise his value and be able to trade him for a quality player or two.

Instead you cut of your nose to spite your face. JD you are a fool! Just sell the Knicks. We fans have had enough of you. You turned the Knicks to dung and Alan Hahn into your puppet.

Alan please get out of here before your reputation is ruined.

This is a place for incompetents like your webmistress; not for an excellent journalist!

OK James "Baby" Dolan! Your puppet has made your position very clear.

But here are the facts. Marbury is a slime ball but in D'Antony's system he would shine with 20+ and 8+ a game. That often would be the difference between winning and losing.

Plus if you played him, you would raise his value and be able to trade him for a quality player or two.

Instead you cut of your nose to spite your face. JD you are a fool! Just sell the Knicks. We fans have had enough of you. You turned the Knicks to dung and Alan Hahn into your puppet.

Alan please get out of here before your reputation is ruined.

This is a place for incompetents like your webmistress; not for an excellent journalist!

The other years he was used wrong. He could have made a difference this year. Of the bench!?? Could you imagine!? How about this one .... Nate, Marbury, Jeffries or Lee in the second unit!? Wow!!!

The other years he was used wrong. He could have made a difference this year. Of the bench!?? Could you imagine!? How about this one .... Nate, Marbury, Jeffries or Lee in the second unit!? Wow!!!

Let's not forget, that practically none of the other Knick players wanted D'antoni to play Stephon.He's not liked by many.
I think that the coach didn't play him for that reason, and also because Marbury is a coach killer, and D'antoni didn't even want to get into the whole who's the boss game.
He just proved it by sitting Marbury.

Anyone not knowing Jerome "all you can eat" James is the worst signing in Knicks history needs to go back under the rock and leave the crack alone. The guy played 5 minutes the last 2 season. The guy is always smiling while thinking about his next meal and how stupid the Knicks are for giving all that money. He seems to be a nice person, but he should be paying to see the knicks player like I do. Enough said.........

Knicks fan4life.....GO NY,GO NY, GO !!!!!

This "cancer" would have looked great in this offense. He is playing for his last contract. He has plenty of incentive to do well.

He gets his numbers, we win 40 games, D'Antoni's system thrives.

WE LET HIM GO AT THE END OF THE SEASON.

Knicks look like a desirable place for all free agent star players.

Simple: Walsh should not have brought in Duhon this season; and

D'Antoni should not have let his ego interfere with this USELESS season and let Marbury play.

BTW: Michael Jordan and Bill Russell (individually) couldn't make winners out of the Knicks during the last 4 years.

You know what's funny?...when the Knicks are winning everybody is like yeah!!!!! Duhon is great!!!!!...and then when they hit a slump the little girly pants Knick's fans are like " the coach sucks, the gm sucks...wah wah wah....letting Maurbury go was a mistake...!!!wah....GUYS...understand something, Its over! Marbury is not going to be a Knick ever again. He will never suit up in a NY uniform...unless it's a garbage man's uniform. It's done. Stop crying and move on. Be a fan..not a GM wanna-be.

Big Knick win tonight.

nostra-Dan-us has spoken.

Hey, Alan read your article on the Knicks shopping for guards. You said that Curry and Danillo participated in a walk through and earlier you said Curry was about a week away. But, the Daily News today reported that Curry is at about four weeks away (two weeks to practice, another two to get in game shape). What is the real story? If he is out four weeks there goes any hopes of trading him before the Feb. trade deadline.

Just checked Si.com. A rumor saying Marbury for McCants and Telfair.
If McHale goes for that, he is in a neck and neck race for worst GM in sports history
with IT! Which would also make DW look more of a like a genius! That would certainly make things work, esp. the way McCants lit it up the other night at the garden!

Didnt we try trading Marbury to Miami for Shawn Marion THE SAME DAY as the Z-Bo trade? We should look into that trade again cause alot of bloggers seem to forget that Walsh did at least try to get a good player back

Playing Steph would not have made this team better. In the long run it would have made the team worse. It was imperative after the last couple of years that the new coach and GM come in and show that they are running the show not the players. But taking the position they are with Marbury they are proving that. For those who say other players won't want to play here because they're being to rough on Marbury I think your wrong. Most players can't stand Marbury or his attitute, in fact Lebron said so. The Knicks should hold onto Marbury just in case a trade comes a long that would help them. Otherwise let him sit for the season, sitting out for 21M not to bad work if you can get it.

nostradumus,

You need to understand the difference between an opinion on what is good for the Knicks and being 6th grade reader of media conjecture.

Do you work for the NBA Players Association? Are you Richardson's girlfriend? How do you know what players are thinking? That's right, you read it from a sportswriter several months/years ago and decided that this was a fact.

Bottom line: this team looks foolish shopping for a shooting guard/backup point guard while paying $21 million for a guard that averages 20 ppg and 8.5 apg.

Well let's go with this season's .379 winning percentage, playing shorted handed for most of season. With new players thrown into the mix, and heck a lottery pick is looking mighty good to me.

HarleminMD,

AMEN to your bottom line! Eloquently put, absoluteky foolish not only for the reasons you mentioned but also for reasons such as running the only pg they do have into the ground while also relying on an undersized combo guard who will never be able to run the point in any NBA system. Meanwhile as they shop they got another guard on the bench they paid a mil just to watch. Every day I slap myself in the face wasting my time earning an electrical engineering degree, Roberson is living the American dream.

HarleminMD,

AMEN to your bottom line! Eloquently put, absoluteky foolish not only for the reasons you mentioned but also for reasons such as running the only pg they do have into the ground while also relying on an undersized combo guard who will never be able to run the point in any NBA system. Meanwhile as they shop they got another guard on the bench they paid a mil just to watch. Every day I slap myself in the face wasting my time earning an electrical engineering degree, Roberson is living the American dream.

I don't think it proves Marbury helped the team win. His biggest flaw is his attitude which effects how the team practices, distracts the team from it's goals and makes it almost impossible for a coach to successfully manage a team.

So pointing out how the team did with Marbury on the floor vs not on the floor misses the point. No one
has had success coaching a team Marbury has been on - I don't think it's a coincidence.

Good breakdown into the record with Marbury, but it's not the whole story. Let me explain. First, the Knicks have a decent coaching system that has showned results at the start of the season, unlike any other season with Marbury. Second, as a knacks fan and not a Marbury fan; I wanted Marbury to play because of the seven man rotation and its harm to my team towards winning due late game fatigue and/or more injuries. Third, his position played is badly needed on the team; back up point guard or off guard. Finally, how you mishandle a player can be a motivational killer for players on the team that may see it as a wrong doing that can happen to them too. A six game losing streak happened after Marbury's paid visit in LA, not a winning streak, but a losing streak. I read today from Marbury himself that Harrington is a very close friend. The same player who has lost something in his game since LA.