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The Knicks are halfway to nowhere

Monday's loss to Boston was Game 41. At 14 games under .500, the Knicks are 5.5 games behind Indiana and the Nets for the eighth spot in the East. A bit early for tragic-number time, but it's not too early to start accepting reality.

But, Fixers, I'm not all about immediately serving up tablespoons of give-it-up with a shot of pitchers-and-catchers reminders. So I'll give you this: The Pacers might be without Jermaine O'Neal for the rest of the season. The Nets, as we know, are garbage and, whispers say, are on the verge of a possible blow-up. J-Kidd, Vince Carter and Richard Jefferson...pick a name. One of them is on the move before the trade deadline.

So let's suggest those teams are expected to drop a little deeper. That takes us to Chicago, Milwaukee and Charlotte. We know the Bulls are a fragile situation and very beatable. The Knicks have two more meetings left with the Buckaroos. Charlotte is the wild card here, but do you really see them as a playoff team?

That leaves Philadelphia. We have three days to remind Eddy Curry and Co. about how Sam Dalembert and Reggie Evans were mocking the Knicks during that blowout at MSG in December after a home-and-home sweep. The Knicks host the Sixers on Friday.

reality_bites.jpgTroy: You're a pathological optimist.
Lelaina: You're pathological.

That's from the '90s slacker movie "Reality Bites." If you hate overbearing, undersexed, pseudo-intellectual white people, you'll hate this movie even more. But Winona Rider is a hottie (and this was before she turned into a shoplifting hottie), so it's worth a view if you're strong enough to ignore the urge to put your fist through Ethan Hawke's face every time it comes on the screen.

Michael: What is your glitch?
Troy:My...glitch?

Speaking of reality and how it bites....(and saving you from any more inane quotage from this movie)....

It's not the distance in games back from the eighth seed at this point, we can all agree that 5.5 games is not insurmountable. But climbing over six teams to get to that eighth spot? That's nearly impossible. For the Knicks to achieve this, all six teams would have to completely drop off the table. The Knicks are 2.5 games behind the Sixers, who sit one rung above them in the Eastern Conference standings.

This is a public service message. Enjoy the wins when they come, but don't put too much stock into anything, including winning streaks. The rest of this season needs to be about what to do going forward, the players you want to keep and the players you may be willing to deal. This is about scouting opponents for players who may become available, or possibly are already available.

This is about not being so desperate to clinch the eighth seed, this is about developing players in actual game-time situations and setting yourself up for a high lottery pick and planning for a day when you're under the salary cap, so you can bring in the kind of player who will set the proper standard and lay the real foundation for a championship team.

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My stance has been against making any roster moves until the offseason when, if matters go as I expect they will, a new person will be in change of the organization. However there are more and more names starting to surface on the trade market, so it's at least worth discussing.

AdamL just can't resist the ESPN trade machine (put down the pipe Adam!). While the trade he worked out makes sense financially, I still am against Mike Bibby. I don't think he makes you that much better. The Pau Gasol situation is more intriguing, however, but I think you have the wrong players involved.

If you're the Knicks, you bring in Gasol to play with Zach Randolph, not Eddy Curry. Gasol is a center, but is a good passer, great perimeter shooter and, yes, can block shots. Randolph has had success playing with perimeter-based bigs before -- Sabonis and Wallace in Portland -- so it might be a better fit in that case. I also think Randolph is far more valuable to the Knicks because he is 10 times more of a competitor than Curry. It is just not in Curry's nature to be the "force" that you might expect out of a man that is 6-11, 290 pounds. Randolph, however, would tear your arm off for a rebound, when properly motivated.

050414_curry_hmed_1p_hmedium.jpgWe can debate this now, because it will be a matter of discussion soon enough..whom do you keep, Zach or Eddy? I believe Z-Bo was playing the "right way" when he first got here. Once he saw how things were -- selfish play prevailed, no defense, fingers pointing -- Zach started going for self. It took him a while, but I think he's back to playing a lot more team-oriented. He'll never be a great defender, but he competes. Opponents respect him.

Curry's level of play is just too mercurial. The Boston game was a perfect microcosm. The first half he seemed indifferent as Kendrick Perkins had him for brunch. Once he was embarrassed enough, Curry started imposing his physical will and dominated. But that lasted only a few minutes until conditioning caught up with him. Once Eddy got tired, he was ineffective again.

This is not a matter of having patience with a developing young player. Curry, at 25, has been in the league long enough now (this is his seventh season) and has all the tools. What he's lacking is something you can't teach or develop. You either have it or you don't. Curry lacks not only the desire to dominate, but the motivation to become a dominant player. Remember when he told us in training camp that he lost 20 pounds during the offseason? Seems like somewhere along the way he found them.

Curry's contract will be easier to move and, perhaps, someone with team toughness already built in might take a chance on him because he's relatively affordable for a starting center. Next year Curry will make $9.7 million and has a player option for $10.5 mil in 2009-10 and another for $11.2 mil in 10-11. If Curry's performance continues at this pace, he'd be ill-advised to decline the option and go into free agency, because I just don't see an NBA team out there willing to pay him over $10 million to be Joe Barry Carroll.

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moon_dunk_getty_260.jpgAs we said last week, N8 didn't get a Slam Dunk contest invite. Defending champ Gerald Green will be back and Dwight Howard, whom everyone said should have won it last year, will also be back. Rudy Gay will be there, too, and the guy to watch is Toronto's Jamario Moon. That kid not only has elevation, he has the ability to levitate.

Comments (29)

Alan,

I agree with you on Zach over Curry, though I'm not crazy about either of them. Curry's inconsistency (and that's being generous - at best he's a one dimensional scorer who doesn't play d and gets winded walking to his car in the morning) will always prevent the team from getting on any kind of a roll.

Repost from earlier this morning:

Has anyone else gotten tired of Isiah and company's tough guy routine - fourth quarter yesterday and the Weasel leads them out onto the court after the House 3-pointer... why - to send a message? To look bad a$$? You're getting smoked by 20 on your own floor and your answer is to try and intimidate a Boston scrub. Nothing like that Isiah mix of class and a sense of the moment.

Enough ranting - just frustrated that the Knicks had been playing better the last couple of weeks (really since the close San Antonio loss) but were done in against an admittedly better Boston team by a bunch of the usual problems - weird substitution patterns, stagnation when Zach gets the ball, the offensive ineptitude of Jeffries and an interior defense that made Kendrick Perkins (?!?!) look like Moses Malone. And Q - 4 fouls, no points but still starting! At least he got Pierce out, or it may have been uglier. But no worries, the bad a$$ Weasel is sending a message.

Isiah reminds me of that loser who graduated 4 years ago but still hangs around the campus desperately trying to show how cool he still is, and is oblivious to how pathetic he looks. Does anyone on this team have even a shred of respect left for him?

Just a frustrating afternoon.

Sorry - the anon above is me (and not the Ghost of Sociopaths Past). Not my morning.

I hope N8 doesn't get an invite to the slam dunk championship. A lot of players seem to have knee problems the season after they've competed in this event. As for trading Curry, don't forget the insurance issues that come with his heart problems (of course it's his metaphorical heart problems that make you want to trade him in the first place). Curry or Randolph might not look that bad if they had a lunch pail big next to them to do the dirty work. Hmmm? I wonder what ever happened to that Dlee guy, too bad we don't have players like that.

Not H. W. - thanks for the reminder... I think.

As far as I know, Curry's contract is uninsurable, meaning that his team is not covered if he is medically unable to play. Isiah thought he was worth the risk. So far his heart (physical, that is) is all right - its the rest of the package that is a problem. Which means he probably can't be traded until the final year of his contract when his potential financial liability is worth the risk for his expiring contract. this is a big problem for any new GM's attempt to remake the team.

Another trade I like is Curry for Dalembert straight up.

Evans can goon enough for Curry, Curry can score enough for Evans. Dalembert can D enough for Randolph, Randolph can score enough for Dalembert. Everybody gets to balance out there one dimensional players and get what they don't currently have.

Alan's got a good point about the timing - things are getting desperate and nobody but teams with equal parts angst and hope-of-saving-their-jobs will take a chance on Curry. Teams as flawed as the Knicks.

So, if you can rip a team off, so be it. But its just as easy to stay pat, wait for Artest to opt out, and get that draft pick.

time for Nate to be THE point guard. Crawford can't do both now, has shown he can play the Rip Hamilton game, and do the clearout thing when asked. I'm betting he'll average the same amount of assists playing within the offense at the 2 as he is now. Nate has the speed and the handle and has shown the discipline.

agree with a lot of what's being said.

@ willis - you're right about nate. why not start him at the point, and tell him that he's the PG of the future? then, anytime he goes for a circus shot or a highlight reel play over making the smart decision, you pull him on the next play. he's got the talent, he's got the motivation, the desire. he just needed to grow up a bit, and it seems like he's doing that more and more. plus, he plays better with confidence and support. what better support than to officially annoint him the team's PG.

Keep him, Crawford, Lee, Z-bo and Balkman. Give those 5, Chandler and Morris some time on the court together to gel, and to see what they've got. Give Curry some minutes to maintain some trade value. Be strict with Randolph, pulling his minutes if he reverts to me-first ball (those 1-on-3 forced shots drive me crazy)

Then, when the draft comes around, you'll have a better idea of what to do. If Nate fails as PG, and doesn't show any more improvement, go for a PG. If he proves that he can be the starting point, then go for a big man that can block shots.

then trade FOR expiring contracts and draft picks. keep marbury just for the purpose of having his expiring contract next season.

That will give you a rebuilding team that's worth watching and that would actually have a shot at making the playoffs in a weak east.

Alan – thank you for suggesting a change in management is on the way this Summer. I’ve taken a lot of heat for the same wishful thinking.

I think Randolph offers more in the long run that Curry. Yet, I admit, that, too, is based on trying to see into future. Curry still has all the upside potential in the world. But as you say, if he hasn’t realized it yet, what are the odds that he ever will? Also, I have to believe that Randolph’s deficiencies are more the kind that can be addressed through good coaching. Nobody is going to teach Curry passion. But passing out of the double-team is another matter. Also, I’m no expert in X’s and O’s, but I wonder if the offense can be designed to promote that kind of ball movement more . . . at least make it more available to him. He obviously has the skills. What I also like about Zbo is that you can pair him with a defensive center, which is easier to come by than a high-scoring center.

I can’t help feeling that all these guys are getting the shaft when it comes to good coaching. We see no indication that the young players are being developed. Of course, this should be the time they get valuable game-experience. But isiah has a conflict of interest. He’s not trying to build a franchise anymore. He’s trying to save his job. He needs wins. The franchise needs to see what Chandler’s got (let’s not even mention Balkman or Collins, who need PT to develop). Malik and Q should sit down for the rest of the year. We should be the Young Guns the rest of the way.

All good posts. Pete, great observation about the "tough guy" routine. We see it a lot. It's noteworthy that as tough as Isiah likes to be (and was as a player), he didn't build a team in that same mold. Not Hawthorne Wingo, I need to do some homework on the Curry contract and see if it is "tradeable"...all contracts have to be insured. Perhaps the Knicks are paying out-of-pocket, which, then would have to continue as part of any deal. Still worthwhile, because money is no object to this franchise.
Trane, go with the kids, you say? Why not? I'd like to see if Randolph Morris can block shots. Or at least can use six fouls the right way. Do Knicks fans really want to watch Jerome James, aside from comic relief?

Forgot to shout out Kendrick Perkins for his "Madison Square Garden Career Night" Honors. Kendrick Perkins joined an exclusive and august club of average and not-so-good players who have made The World's Most Famous Arena their personal playground.

Congratulations Kendrick!

There seems to be a consensus here (and elsewhere) that the Crawford/Lee/Randolph/Balkman combo with Nate at the point is the most promising line-up the Knicks could roll out right now. I agree. And its inconceivable to me why Isiah can't seem to see this. Is he really that influenced by salary? Or is it Isiah the coach trying to make Isiah the GM look good? If its the latter, it isn't working.

Matt B. is right that Nate could be groomed. Although he was a four-year college guy he came into the league raw, and with what looked like some emotional maturity problems. Now he's growing up. I've really come to like him. But where in this mess of an organization does he get the kind of coaching that would really benefit a player like him? I don't want to see him play out his contract, go elsewhere because he's been jerked around, then blossom in another uniform.

One other thing

Alan: agree that Isiah was both tough as nails and a winner as a player - so why is he so taken with this blend of softies and selfish players? And no, the odd cheap shot or threat does not make a tough team.

W/r/t the Zach/Eddy debate -

honestly, I think if there's ever to be hope (eternal optimism) of building a championship contender in NY, honestly they both have to go. Here's my reasoning. Randolph is a high volume scorer. His raw stats look good, but the low shooting %, high turnovers, and inability to play defense make him a liability on a good team. He'll get his numbers on a bad team (Knicks, Blazers) but can't/won't be effective if he was on a contender. Can you see him sharing the rock were he to miraculously wind up say, San Antonio? Two, and most importantly - like most of the roster, he's got an awful contract.

Building a team in the NBA is about economics. Because the teams all have limited resources to spend (the cap), it's FAR more important to get players who overproduce their contracts than anything else.

Look at the gteams that have been consistently good over the last 5 years. San Antonio's great b/c Parker and Ginobili are all-stars playing at a less than max deals

Detroit for years has gotten production/dollar from Billups, Prince, Ben Wallace, and others.

Phoenix has/had Nash, Marion, Bell, Johnson, Barbosa all producing for far less than max deals.

The Knicks have tons of players who perform well under their contract - even if they have "talent'. Randolph, Crawford, Richardson, Jeffries, Curry, Marbury, and on and on.

it's why the Randolph - Frye/Francis trade was doomed to fail. Even at Randolph's PEAK he's never going to be a 20million a year player. That's a third of your cap and guarantees a losing team. Meanwhile, they gave up a shorter contract (Francis) and a player whould COULD out-perform his contract (Frye), even if he'll never be as good as Randolph

But, they do have a core of players who COULD out-perform their salary - namely Lee, Balkman, and Robinson. None of these three will get a max deal when their rookie deals are up and they could develop into good starters/role players.

Which is why those three (and Chandler and Morris) need to play as much as possible this season.

Then you've got to dump both Randolph and Curry for ANYONE who has a deal that expires before 2009-10. See if LA will take Zach for Kwame Brown and parts. See if Orlando would want Curry for their expiring deals. Go back to Milwaukee and see if they still are interested. Moving the long-term deals of QRich, Jeffries, and even Crawford is going to be harder, but it's doable - maybe Isiah can become GM of another team and'll be willing to trade for his "untouchables"

In all of Isiah's deals, he gets the best "talent", but that "talent" ALWAYS comes w/a massive contract.

The second part of the "get value for the dollar" strategy is that you need a superstar. You need to tank for the net two years and hope that the next two drafts produce two all-stars. Say, Derrick Rose this year and future phenom TBD the next.

Whew. Got on a roll there. But thats my Rx for this team. Wanna hire me Jimmy D? I'll work cheap! I'll even go to AA meetings with you and be a roadie for your band and I promise to try super-hard not to harrass any of the Knicks City Dancers! Please?


Hey Alan,

As long as you're looking at the insurance issue, you might want to look at Q's contract. I believe that's why we got N8, because Q's contract ain't insured. I'd love it if I was wrong but...

"Alan: agree that Isiah was both tough as nails and a winner as a player - so why is he so taken with this blend of softies and selfish players? And no, the odd cheap shot or threat does not make a tough team."

that may be true but the knicks haven't had a chance to get top-tier talent like Yao, LeBron, Dwight, those kinds of players, considering the knicks circumstances. isiah has gambled the franchise on eddy curry, jamal crawford, and everyone else. he took a chance and it's not paying off.

in hindsight the best thing would have been to let all of those layden contracts expire and just get really high draft picks all these years without doing hasty trade deadline moves or even worse mid-level exception moves or worse yet trade away lottery unproctected picks. his only saving grace thus far has been lee, renaldo and nate which means to me he should be less of a gm and more of a nba talent scout.

I say we keep nate and jamal and zbo as part of our future, renaldo will never be a starter in this league but keep him to come off the bench, q rich carreers almost over, jeffries has no offensive abilites but could be decent off the bench, i say we start playing the kid wilson chandler right now, trade eddy curry for expiring contracts and other crap, tank the season and get a defensive and athletic center to cover for zbo's defensive weaknesses. My starters for the rest of the year are Nate, Jamal, Chandler, Zbo, and Lee. Balkman, Jeffries, Curry, and Jones coming off the bench. Starters for next year are Nate, Jamal, Chandler(or possibly artest or another big name Sf if we get one), Zbo, and 1st round draft pick. Im sold on nate as being the PG of the future

and by the way Nate went to college for 3 years

Kenneth - oops, your right. Still not my day

There have been at least 4 players who achieve career highs against Isiah's hand-picked untouchables this season:

- M Dunleavy was Dr. J reincarnated against the Knicks;
- J. Salmons was George Gervin
- A. Brooks played like the 2nd coming of Tiny Archibald;
- Perkins was the clone of Kevin McHale

The weak D is so glaring. Doesn't Zeke see this? How about his useless Assistant Coaches?

What happened to the "great basketball minds" that Zeke was enunciating not too long ago?

Alan- great post. keep up the good work. now you are keepin it real..you cant talk about "potential" with a guy who has been in the league 7 years. curry will never start on a playoff team..hes a bum

I WAS WATCHING MIKE AND THE MAD DOG
LAST WEEK AND MIKE FRANCESA SAID HE SAW DOLAN AT SOME NYC EVENT AND ASKED HIM ABOUT ISIAH AND HE THAT DOLAN SAID "I am not making a change this year...and that he still had faith in isiah"...

so those people wishing on a star that I.T. gets fired in the offseason had better start hoping to see some losing cuz if isiah comes anywhere close to the 8th seed he will be back next year.
that is why he is playing the veterans because he knows if he can win x amount of games he will be back.

THAT IS WHY HE IS NOT DEVELOPING THE YOUNG GUYS CUZ HE THINKS HE CAN WIN WITH 'Q"...HE JUST TRYING TO BUY HIMSELF MORE TIME TO EITHER FIX THE KNICKS OR SCREW THEM UP EVEN MORE.

the biggest problem i see is isiah's unwillingness to admit he made mistakes as the GM.
he knows curry will never be an allstar center because he is as soft as tissue paper.
he needs to keep randolph and get an athletic defensive center.

he also needs to get artest on the team.that guy is the defensive personality we need on this team.

THIS TEAM IS SOFT
AND CURRY BEING OUR CENTER IS A BIG REASON

5"10 guards come into the paint and laugh at him as they fingerroll.

Alan,

You have conflicting opinions! First you give us the State of the Union of how bad the East really is, suggesting I believe that the Knicks may find themself's in the 8th seed being only 5.5 games back from the Nets and Pacers, with the Nets falling apart!

Then you state we may have new managment if things go the way
you think they will??? I've seen you've learned a lot from Bill Clinton!!!!!! Cover both sides and you can never be wrong!
So correct me if I'm wrong....the Knicks will have new managment
once they make the playoffs??????

Again in Hoopshype there is an Artest article from the Detroit Press, stateing that Artest will be traded before the Feb deadline, because the Kings won't let him walk for free! I said this a thousand times before, we will see Artest in a Knick uniform this year! Chandler or Morris will be traded along with Rose or Q.
Curry is untradeable, so if that happens, Zach , Lee and Artest will be a formidable line up! Curry should be benched untill he loses 35 pounds and works his way back to bench minutes in practice! Lee impressed me fronting YAO and just his desire to give the effort! Artest can guard anyone in the league, Center, PF or guard! Bring Artest home NOW!!!!!!!!

@Peaceman: Please read the post again. I offer the optimistic point of view -- which many Knicks fans grasp onto -- and then douse it with reality.
No Clintonesque fence-riding here. Did anyone else read it like that?

Alan, best entry in a while, love it! Spot on! I would however make a trade or two this year to get the guys working together this season and build on that going into next year but only if the trades bring players we plan on keeping next season. Then you'd shorten the learning curve for the new players (see the Zach/Eddy experiment, Curry got injured, Zach was on bereavement) before next season can be lost in the first 2 months. I'd definitely trade for Dalembert if we can get him and Artest if he comes cheap (or wait until he opts out and do a sign and trade with Sacramento). I'd also look for a second tier point guard (Andre Miller, Mike James, Earl Watson) to both save Crawford's legs and see how these guys play with a PG who can run the offense. Also the Knicks are still trying to sell out games and this would help.

I agree with you Alan I would much rather keep Zach than Curry. Zach plays with a lot of intensity, heart and fire all the time unlike Curry. Although he's not that great of a defender you can live with his defense because he actually puts forth an effort on the defensive end and he's a tremondous rebounder. Also he's more reliable low post then Curry and he can score in a variety of ways that Curry cannot. He's also showing now that he can pass out of the post if he had real great coaching I think he you would see him become a more complete basketball player because he's coachable and he works hard. I'd trade Curry and bring in a shotblocking center to put next to Z-Bo.

Alan,

I must disagree about your assertion that it is better to wait for the summer to make changes. First, I don't think Zeke is going anywhere not that that matters for the purposes of this discussion.

Moreover, given the Knicks roster, the Knicks have nothing to lose by making moves. Trades will not disrupt the chemistry of the team nor can they set the team back in terms of personnel - we have few untouchables.

Unlike many who want to tank the season, I see no real benefit in doing so. The lottery is not a sure thing and we are closer to becoming a playoff contender today than winning a sure-thing lottery franchise player.

At this point in the season, Curry and Crawford must be on the trading block along with the usual suspects. Isiah should identify a team that wants to contend seriously in the playoffs and could use some of what we have to offer to improve their team. By helping someone else contend this year we may be able to acquire talent that improves our chances this summer (for further deals) and next year.

IMO, the sooner Curry goes the quicker the Knicks gel.

you got it right alan, curry is a hopeless bum, let's pray that some sucker out there thinks that they can mold him into something. b/t/w, i suspect that the knicks could self-insure curry, as they are doing now, even if they were to trade him to another team.

z-bo is a keeper, he just needs a good coach, a decent point guard and a sharp shooting small forward to work with. one thing people don't talk about much in here is, on top of all the other horrors with this franchise, they have no perimeter game (i love jamal, but he is not my idea of a serious perimeter game). this team can't shoot!! it's pretty basic, if you can't shoot, you're going to lose a lot more than you win.

the distribution of playing time with this team is incomprehensible. fred jones starts and n8 doesn't? jeffries plays 25 minutes, lee 20? Q starts, balkman catches splinters? there ought to be a law against this type of coaching.

i have to honest, i have been increasingly tuning this team out, they just aren't worth my time. i don't think i've seen a game in 3 weeks, and i'm a 25 year season ticket holder. there are very few players on this team i care to root for (jamal, lee, n8, balkman), and many i just can't stand to watch (Q, curry, james, collins, jeffries). just looking at the last group of names makes me feel ill.

you know something is dreadfully wrong when the best thing to happen all year is that the team's star goes out for the season (and hopefully forever).

The Trade Machine is too much fun...Only if thats all you had to do to be a GM.

Here's a trade for you though that does work though. (NYK) Curry and Balkman for (SAC) Ron Artest and Mikki Moore.

I don't think Sacramento would do this, but it would show they're committed to getting younger. They would completely lose whatever defensive presence they did have, but they would have a young post player in Curry and an extremely athletic and youthful jack of all trade players in Balkman that could grow with Martin and Garcia.

I'm not as concerned about Artest as some are. He is a little weird, but I've always heard he's an excellent teammate and a hard worker. I'm all for Artest coming to New York.

What do you guys think of trading Eddy Curry to the hawks?? The hawks are way too inconsistent and need a offensive big to pair with horford. I'd like to see shelden williams in a knick uniform. A nice defensive big , who can block shots, and pair with zach.

Some general comments:

One problem with N8 being the PG of the future is his size. Granted, he's an athletic phenom and that makes up a lot for his size, but he will be a huge mismatch on a lot of nights. I think N8 will always be best used as a spark plug off the bench when the defensive matchup makes sense.

QRich should get no playing time at all. He can't hit the ocean anymore. Given that we have inside players that are often double teamed, we simply must have a SF that can shoot from the outside to make that more difficult to do.

Either Curry or Zbo has to go. If we move Curry we need a defensee oriented shot blocking center to go with Zbo to make up for his weaknesses. If we move Zbo, we need a defense oriented shot blocking PF to make up for Curry's weaknesses.

Morris and Chandler absolutely must get some quality playing time soon so we know going into the draft whether either might develop into a starting player that will fill our needs at center (defense and rebounding) or at SF (an outside shooter).

Just like everyone else, I love Lee's attitude and energy, but I have to say I think he's a little overrated right now. He's still a great value at the salary, but he has no mid range jumper at all. Teams have adjusted to him a bit and his limitations sometime hurt. If he can't start hitting and 8-10 footers soon, I don't think he's as untouchable as I once thought.

Balkman will always be a very useful defensive, energy, intangibles type player that can get a lot of time when we have some serious offensive weapons on the court that can make up for his weaknesses in that area.

We should keep Marbury for his expiring contract and in a little over a year finally be done with him. (Thank God)

I was hoping that Mardy Collins might develop some better offensive and general shooting skills during the off season because he showed some PG skills late last year, but unfortunately, if anything, his game has gone backward instead of forward. I guess he won't be our PG of the future.

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