Pavano throws two innings
This is not a joke.
Carl Pavano threw a pair of scoreless innings tonight for Class A Charleston in his first minor-league rehab game. He allowed one hit and one walk with four strikeouts.
Phil Hughes followed Pavano in that game and threw three scoreless innings in his first rehab outing. He allowed two hits and one walk and struck out one.
And Ian Kennedy is pitching for Triple-A Scranton tonight.
And Chien-Ming Wang had the cast removed from his foot today. He's still on crutches.
So the question is: Which of these pitchers, if any, do you think will be in the Yankees' rotation in September?
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No Anthony, the joke is that you bothered reporting it. I'd rather you insult my mother than use the word Pavano with me...
If history tells us anything, I guess we'll see Pavano on the mound again in August of 2010.
Carl will be the one 22 make the most starts down the stretch He will be the typical primodonna athlete in a walk year
Kennedy through 6.0 Innings, gave up 1 Earned Run off three hits, 3 walks and struck out five.
Thats his 3rd solid start in a row. I could see him getting one more start before being brought up since Rasner pitched pretty well last night.
Ponson needs to show something in his next start or he is going to be sent down too.
Bruney pitched 1.1 innings last night without giving up a run. Robertson's ERA jumped after giving up that grand slam the other night so if he stumbles again they may swap him with Bruney. Giving Bruney a few more go at its in AAA is not a bad thing since we are not desperate for bullpen help.
Can we cast a vote for Jarrod Washburn? If not I'm going with Phil Hughes. Only because he's already throwing and CM Wang isn't and I don't believe that Pavano will make it through rehab without a set back - though if he does, say what you will about the guy, he would be the best option to slot into the rotation.
On another note, call it a dream, a vision, whatever - but it came to me last night. Ladies and gentleman (and the troll who keeps calling for a salary cap) I give you the 2009 New York Yankees:
Johnny Damon - LF
Derek Jeter - SS
Manny Ramirez - RF
Alex Rodriguez - 3b
Adam Dunn - DH
Jorge Posada - 1b
Xavier Nady - LF
Robinson Cano - 2b
Jarrod Saltalamaccia - C (trade for Washburn, Ian Kennedy and Melky Cabrera, and cash - Yankees also get back Kameron Loe)
Brett Gardner - CF
Bench: Matsui, Molina, Gonzalez, Sean Casey, Izturis
Rotation:
Wang, Andy, Joba, Darvish, Hughes
Pen:
Robertson, Melancon, Marte, Rivera, Ramirez, Veras
...and if you don't like Darvish I think I also conjured the Yankees possibly dealing for Chris Carpenter this winter.
There is absolutely no chance the Yankees end up with Manny Ramirez.
Zero.
The Red Sox are not that stupid. There is no way they are going to trade him before the deadline, and if they do hes not coming to the Yanks.
After the season is over the Sox are going to pick up his option and trade him to where ever they want to. They will not allow him to come to a rival team in the same division.
Even if he somehow became a free agent I don't see the Yankees getting him and putting up with his BS.
If he comes to NY at all it would be the Mets.
If I had to guess this would be my opening day starting lineup:
Johnny Damon - LF
Derek Jeter - SS
Teixeira - 1B
Alex Rodriguez - 3B
Matsui - DH
Robinson Cano - 2B
Xavier Nady - RF
Dave Ross - C (Free Agent, Great OBP)
Melky - CF
DL: Posada
Bench: Gardner, Molina,
Rotation:
Wang, Andy, Joba, Darvish, Hughes/Kennedy
Pen:
Robertson, Melancon, Marte, Ramirez, Veras, Rivera
Dunn would be great but I doubt the Yanks will throw the money at him to be another DH/OF. We got Damon, Matsui and Posada that are going to need to be splitting up the DH duties. If the Yanks score Teixeira they will be able to use that DH spot more than when they had Giambi.
If the Yanks do not get Darvish they will definitely be going after CC or Sheets.
Chip: I have watched Saltalamaccia a few times where is the upgrade (age). He hits in the .220's and was not impressed with his arm. Please enlighten me on his upgrade unless him being of Italian decent he does not appear to be the second coming of Yogi.
Guys, the Yanks are so flawed with the injuries to Wang, Posada and Matsui that team rarely is operating on all cylinders. Now, throw in Melky's inconsistentcy at the plate and with our catching inability to hit plus a real weak 3/4/5 rotation. What can we expect from this team. They maybe giving us all they have.
McCarthy:
Angels did not just trade for Tex to let him walk. They'll ink him.
I don't think they'll pick up the option on Manny out of fear that they'll wind up not being able to trade him.
I have no faith in the health of Matsui allowing him to play much next season - hence I have him relegated to the bench.
With Taylor Teargarden and Max Ramirez waiting in the wings, the Rangers can and likely will move Salty - would rather have a young switch hitting catcher than David Ross, a career backup with a great OBP
Sabathia will be a Dodger. He wants to go back to his SoCal home and the Dodgers are subtracting a ton of money from their payroll (Schmidt, Lowe, Kent, Furcal, Nomar)
Larry - Salty's good behind the dish and he'll improve as a hitter.
I posted on an earlier thread before last night's crap that Cabrera seems to pitch well against the Yanks, even though he was getting shelled in his last few outings and that the bottom part of the order was not going to scare anyone.
Well, Cabrera did it again and the bottom of the order was something like 2-16.
Once again A-Rod couldn't get it done when it counted and the HR given up by Mo was huge.
To me the bottom of the order needs to be addressed. The Yanks need to get an OF to replace Melky who can hit, I am so tired of that kid I can't even stand it anymore. I don't think Damon in CF is the answer but someone like Randy Winn is starting to appeal to me, anyone but Melky.
MichaelZ: To answer your question from the last thread: O's fans live for victories against the Yanks so what do they look like? Well, the guy in the office down the hall just happened to wear his O's polo shirt to work today and has a goofy grin on his face (the kind you'd like to punch) and he keeps saying "we OWN you" and that's about it. I'll get him back when the Yanks win tonight (I hope).
Chip: I seriously do not get your infatuation with Adam Dunn. That guy is HORRIBLE. He is slow, uninspired and yeah, he'll hit the HR's but he will strike out so often in meaningful situations it will kill us all (and don't we already have a player like that?).
The heck with taking a chance on Darvish, gimme CC!
I know, I know, Darvish is "supposed" to be the greatest thing out of Japan since Toyota, but I ain't buying it, I want a proven, LH, major league top of the rotation starter who eats innings like they are M&M's.
I am hating this team right now.....obviously I'm in a terrible mood over that game last night. Fire Girardi! Fire Cash! Trade Jeter! Blow it up and start over!
Ok.....taking some deep breaths now....
Chip -
Teixeira will be a free agent. He is going to get the most money he can. This has been stated by him and his agent. Specially since the Yanks and Mets will be involved in talks, his price will sky rocket if he becomes a free agent.
Manny is not coming to the Yanks, even if he somehow does become a free agent. No way he can be Manny in a Yankee uniform. Fans won't laugh about his antics as much as they do in Boston.
You have to Ink Matsui in at DH. He was spanking the ball when he was healthy this year and the Yanks will plan on him being healthy next year in his final year of his contract.
Salty hasn't proven anything. Jose Molina and a guy like Ross/Barajas they don't have to trade for will share the duties until Posada is back to full strength and can catch again.
If the Yanks do not sign Darvish they will have to pay serious money to get CC or Sheets. If that doesn't happen they will take looks at Garland, Dempster and even Mussina to fill in the rotation.
Jim A; Take deep breaths. This team is too flawed to win but is making a valid effort to straigthen out the flaws for next year. As I see it. The injuries to Kennedy and Hughes have put some of the fact finding on the back burner with rotation unless both of these guys can get in two good months of work.
How about Christian playing CF at least when a Lh pitcher is starting. The kid has a brain as opposed to Melky and his magic carpet ride of brain.
Chip, I like some of your line up / rotation ideas, but you've listed two LF - Damon and Nady - in the same line up (?!) Is that because you're looking at them alternating? In which case, do you have Jeter leading off?
Like Jim A, I'm also not thrilled at Dunn.
Any more news about that Winn/Molina deal that you spoke about?
Someone on Pete's blog last night was going on about a deal for Grienke being close. No doubt, sportswriters get bored and sit around creating their own deals just for fun. A bit like us actually!
I really believe they will give Hughes and Kennedy a good look again if they are really healthy. If Pavano, is healthy they may give him a look but I hope trade him in the off-season.
Isn't this the last year of Carla Pavana's contract??
Imagine if this team, by some miracle, made it to the World Series. They would have serious trouble figuring out who to sit in the NL parks all the time.
Yanks61: That's Chip's plan, and it's a sinister one at that as he will have the Yanks with two LF's and hope that no other teams notice. The Yanks defense would be awesome! I'm also thinking we should put a guy in at rover and station him between Jeter and Cano....and depending on who is pitching, either LF or the Rover will bat but shhhhhhh, don't let anyone know that.
Chip=Genius.
yanks will make big deals tomorrow using their plethora of young trade chips in the minor leagues plus melky, wilson betermeat and maybe others. the team can't stay this way and won't win if they do.
Dunn is Dave Kingman. Strike out or HR ... we don't need a guy like that. The problem w/ the Tex trade is that Artie Moreno has the cash (and now the hole at 1B) to aggressively go after him. However, Tex is a Boras client and supposedly is looking for 10 yrs. and $230 million. Ouch. He won't get that ... however he'll be 29 to start next season and I doubt Boras would accept anything less than 8 years for him.
Soooo, do we want a 37 year old Tex at some point (at $20 mill?). I guess we could cross that bridge when we come to it.
How about Abreu back on a 3 yr. deal, keep Nady in LF, DH Damon or Matsui (one of them will be hurt anyway) ... that allows Austin Jackson to play in 2010 (when Nady, Damon and Matsui are all gone) ... Jorge/Molina back at catcher ... if Jorge is done behind plate (making that 4 yr. signing a disaster) and we don't get Tex then he needs to be the 1B.
CC will be getting a brinks truck from someone (probably the Dodgers) and that's not smart to do (pitchers rearely last over 7 yr. deals) ... shoot a 4 yr. deal at Sheets instead. If not, I'm okay w/ Wang, Joba, Pettite, Hughes + Kennedy next year (we held onto them for a reason, right?) ... sprinkle in Darvish (if he comes over) or possibly Moose on a 1 yr. deal as insurance. Plus someone from the Horne, Sanchez, Marquez, Aceves crew could make the team as the 5th guy.
Trade Igawa for a bag of balls and let's play ball.
Bri- Great post!
I do think the Yanks have a hope with Teixeira because he is an east coast guy and they can certainly match any offer the Angels put up AND Yankee Stadium will be much more conducive to his hitting style than the Angels park.
If I'm the Yanks I'd start off any marketing strategy to free agents like this: Don't you want to be the first person ever to play (fill in position) at the new Stadium?
CC is a very tough one because he is a West Coast guy but asking him if he wanted to throw the first pitch ever thrown in the new stadium might help, although sentimental people might want Andy P. or Joba to do it.