Gameday Live 45: Orioles at Yankees
Evening folks. Fresh off my cameo, as David Lennon put it, Sunday night, Rod Boone here at the Stadium tonight to take you through the opener of this three-game series with the surprising Orioles. Who would have thought the Orioles would have a better record than the Bombers right about now? B'more comes in with a 23-20 mark while the Yanks are 20-24.
Pitching matchup: Mike Mussina (6-3, 3.99 ERA) opposes Daniel Cabrera (4-1, 3.58).
Pregame chatter: Alex Rodriguez returns to the lineup tonight and hopes to inject a little life in the Yankees' slumping offense. ... As for the weather, the rain has pretty much stopped and it looks like they are going to get this in. The tarp is off the field.
Be back when we get closer to first pitch. In the meantime, chat amongst yourselves.
Top of 1st: Mussina walked Brian Roberts to start off the game and it went all down hill from there. Roberts scored from second on a two-out Aubrey Huff RBI single and then an error by The Captain Derek Jeter opened the floodgates. The Orioles scored six more times after that and batted around. Short outing for Moose (2/3 of an inning, seven runs -- one earned -- on five hits). Ross Ohlendorf is in. Orioles 7, Yankees 0.
Bottom of 1st: A leadoff single by Johnny Damon is wasted as Jeter grounds into a double play. Bobby Abreu flied out to to end the inning and it's on to the second.
Top of 2nd: Shoddy defense leads to two more unearned runs. This is about as ugly as the weather today. Orioles 9, Yankees 0.
Bottom of 2nd: Guess A-Rod was anxious to get back, huh? He grounded the first pitch he saw to third, but was safe at first on Melvin Mora's bad throw. Mora is the only Oriole not having a good game. He made two outs in the first and now the throwing error. Yankees strand two as Melky Cabrera flies out to center.
Top of 3rd: Finally, a rather routine half inning by the Yankees' pitchers. Only four batters came up to the plate and no one reached second. Still a long way to go and if the Yankees have any shot, that's going to have to be the norm the rest of the way.
Bottom of 3rd: More bad news. Jeter was drilled on the left hand and came out of the game. Just when you think it can't get any worse.
Top of 4th: Kevin Millar goes deep to left. Another run for the O's. Yankees are down by a touchdown and a field goal. Orioles 10, Yankees 0.
Bottom of 4th: Another inning, another meager effort by the offense. The Yankees have as many hits (2) as they do errors.
Top of 5th: LaTroy Hawkins is in and sets the the order in side. He got a Bronx cheer for his effort.
Bottom of 5th: This is a recording, this is a recording. Nothing, and I really mean nothing, doing for the Yankees, who are looking pathetic. I'm sure this one can't end soon enough for Yankees fans. They've done little to show they have any fight after getting down big early.
Top of 6th: Who didn't see this coming? Once Jeter got hit and with this game way out of hand, there was a feeling something might happen. Hawkins threw at the head of Luke Scott with two outs and was ejected by home plate ump Chuck Meriwether. Looking at the replay, Scott said something to the effect of, "Not my head, dude." He also said something else, but this is a family blog. Least the Yanks got some good news during the break in between pitching changes. Jeter had X-rays and they were negative. He has a contusion of the left hand and is day-to-day. Another ho-hum night at the Stadium.
Bottom of 6th: No shutout tonight. A-Rod homers to deep left-centerfield and the Yankees are finally on the board. Orioles 10, Yankees 2.
Top of 7th: Orioles go down 1-2-3.
Bottom of 7th: The crowd tried to will the Yankees back into it, but they go down relatively easily and we move to the 8th.
Top of 8th: Scott says take that. He smashed a 3-and-2 pitch into the seats in right for a two-out dinger. The O's are pouring it on. Orioles 12, Yankees 2.
Bottom of 8th: The Yankees are set down quickly. Enter Sandman is playing and Mo is in for mop up duty.
Top of 9th: An uneventful half inning for the O's. One more turn at the plate for the Yankees.
Bottom of 9th: And we're done here. Final: Orioles 12, Yankees 2.
Comments (24)
Wow. Just. Wow.
PLEASE FIRE CASHMAN! PLEASE FIRE CASHMAN! PLEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSEEEEE!!?
Yeah, this is Cashman's fault....he's making the errors and pitching like crap.
This is so stupid.
Frustration is one thing, but some people have no concept of reality.
All the miniature Steinbrenners need an 80s or early 90s flashback before they really understand frustration.
I want -- yes, this is non-violent, non-retaliatory me -- every pitcher that comes to the mound in our uniform for the rest of the game to hit one of their guys. Every single one. Let them get thrown out, let Girardi get thrown out -- the game is a disaster already. Like the team. They haven't done a single thing right, so let them do SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR A CHANGE.
DIANE! I'm a little shocked by this outburst from you. You are normally so calm and cool. Let's just laugh this one off and forget about it.
I just want to see them do SOMETHING that is not feeble and wimpish. ANYTHING!!
(I know, I'm shocked too... )
well at least it was fun watching those 80's team. and the early 90's team at least had scrubs that we knew about
Diane I LOVE IT!!!
I think you speak for most of us who for a multitude of reasons have lost the drive to post or even talk about this pathetic season.
It's sad but I agree with you.
I'm not sure how much more of this the fans, a small number of players, (and we know who they are AND who they ARENT), and most importantly HANK can take.
I'm actually very worried about the backlash that I believe will be coming soon from our new owner.
I believe something should be done maybe something drastic but I just hope we don't fall into the trap of trading everybody. I wouldn't mind trading a few of em but I just don't want to see an emotional slash and burn the farm to the ground kinda thing for more "Giambi's or Pavano's"
You, Jim A, and I, were very vocal in our support of acquiring Johan-even if it painfully cost us Hughes.
But it's over now.
It's funny but at this point I almost tend to want chaos too.
Like this is so bad that I want it to get worse just to feel something other than boredom and dissapointment lol.
That aside...
If Hank goes nuts and throws every baby boy we've got away for someone who I assume will be far less valuable (Best Pitcher in Baseball 28yrs young) we could be in some very dangerous territory.
Like most have said this is more frustrating than even last season's tumult.
In times like this, we need to be reminded that Hank is not the only guy with power in that front office.
Hal has just as much power as Hank does and Hal is unquestionably the smarter half of that duo.
We tend to lose sight of that because Hank is the guy always opening his big mouth to the media.
U... G... L... Y...!!!!!
do any of these players care anymore.
Damon laughing on the bench at Millar...???
I know they were good friends in Boston... but pleas!
Besides, Millar s#cks! So does half of the Oriole roster... But Millar somehow hits a homerun or at least 2 doubles every game against the Yankees... and once again the Yanks can't hit a straight fastball, but all I hear about is that the Yankee pitchers throw hittable fastballs that don't have any movement on them.
DOC
Responding from a previous thread....
Ruse,
I don't understand why guys like you and Rick Keyes (and Bomber as well to some extent) continue to advocate signing or trading for the shiny new whistles as a way to fix all the Yanks' problems and downplay the youngsters in the farm system. Is there a Baby Bomber that you do like outside of Joba?
Bronx Bomber already declared Hughes and Kennedy overhyped in April after just a handful of starts. That’s just silly.
More often than not, you're the same guys who are first to complain that this team is too old and slow when they aren't playing well. What do you expect?
How do you guys expect this team to get younger if you won't allow the team to develop their young players and take the growing pains that inevitably go with it?
Doing as you suggest only digs this team into a bigger hole in terms of increased roster inflexibility and age. Throwing money at the problem is not always the solution. Those decisions have consequences - too many immovable contracts hamstrings the roster and blocks the path of young kids who may be able to help the team.
There's a reason why the free agent market isn't what it used to be. Because of revenue sharing, teams now have more money and are locking up a lot of those superstar players to long term deals that many have walked a few seasons ago.
This is especially true with good young pitchers. These guys are gold and teams aren't letting them get away very often.
Hell, even the Rays are now doing just that as evidenced by the Longoria and Kazmir deals in recent weeks. The Marlins did the same thing with Hanley Ramirez.
The Yanks success in the late 90s and their attendance throughout the 2000s have essentially come back to bite them because it has forced them to explore other avenues for talent (International - Central America, Japan, and China) and forces them to develop their own talent - which I think is a good thing despite our resident Imperial Wizard advocating institutionalized racism.
I don't get why Yankee fans think everything is and should be a quick fix. Hey, just trade for this guy or sign that guy and all is good. That strategy has, in fact, put this team in a big hole because of their obligations to older and underachieving talent like Farnsworth, Giambi, Damon, Abreu, etc.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying the Yanks should turn into Billy Beane’s Oakland A’s and not spend money. But what I am saying is that they really need to make much wiser decisions on that front and not simply spend money like drunken sailors because they have it to spend. It is essential for this team to continue the youth movement and build a core of young talent instead of looking at trades or the free agent market as the be all end all of solutions.
If this team wants to win another championship anytime soon, they need to develop these young kids and take the lumps that go with it. In the long run, they will be far better off for it. The Red Sox haven’t gone to the postseason every year since 1993 and that organization is in better shape than the Yanks right now.
Keep in mind that 85% of the current Rays’ roster (and the core of the team) is essentially the same one they had last season when they lost 96 games.
Times are changing and if the Yanks revert back to the old philosophy of signing every big free agent available or trading young talent way, we will witness this team spiral into the dark days of the 1980s instead of building a foundation of youth reminiscent to the late 1990s.
Can we please totally rebuild this team?
RF Josh Hamilton
CF Ankiel ("The Coward" as Michael PTRS said)
LF Ludwick .330+ 12 HR's 8 Hr's in MAY ALONE
C Bard
SS Eckstein
2B Brandon Phillips
1B Menky and Andy Phillips
3B A-Rod, since 300 million is hard to move
Pitchers
Joba
(Name any other 11 guys)
This team is just a total wreck.
Afterman
Cashman
Scouts
No Small Ball
Igawa
Giambi
Farns
Damon
No LHP's
Brackman was drafted hurt
Pavano
Weaver
Brown
Vasquez
Igawa over Lilly
Abreu for 16 million
No back up for Kennedy and Hughes
I mean, where does it end?
Off the field ...
McNamee Date RA ... E
Clemens
Pettite
Women's underwear (men wearing it!)
Leyritz DWI killing
Leyritz post DWI autographing
C-Rod
Strip Club
Who are these people?
What has happened to this once proud franchise?
And all for only US$ 200 million!!!!!!!!!!!
We are truly in a Transition but the younger guys except for the pitchers are no where to be found. The positional players are not ready according to the front office and some of our savy bloggers who follow the minor leagues. This is because the Yankees over the years have traded away our draft selections when signing FA's thus a week farm system.
Cashman has tried to fix this with trades for prospective pitchers when trading the likes of Johnson and Wright. He has put a stopgap with the positional players by signing guys such as Damon, Giambi and Matsui to long term contracts in the twilight of their careers.
This all adds up to play like last night. Who knows what may have been if Cano covers the bag. The annoyance that Jeter had for Cano was obvious. Damon probably lost the ball in the grey light of dusk but he looked bad on another play. It all adds up to transition but I find it disturbing not see some change with Ensberg and Hawkins traded or DFA. These two spots could go for a younger player. Duncan needs some playing time if you expect him to cotribute balancing out the lineup with righty/ lefty.
It maybe to soon in Girardi's head but mine is made up.
Bronx Bomber already declared Hughes and Kennedy overhyped in April after just a handful of starts. That’s just silly.
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ANd You deemed them ready after a handful of starts and was ready to place them in the rotation , even with not a full season at AAA or a full season here people was ready to CROWN them the next great things. Yes they was overhyped they was overhyped last season , how the hell can you label somebody ready to start after 29 innings ? that is silly. Now I will say Viper no you was'nt on a high mountain yelling these kids are kings but you supported the move so the following is with you as well
Phil Hughes
2008 22 NYY AL 0 4 6 6 0 0 0 0 22.0 34 23 22 2 13 13 1 2 110 0 0 9.00 4.04 45 2.136
Ian Kennedy
2008 23 NYY AL 0 3 7 6 0 0 1 0 28.7 33 27 27 3 21 19 1 2 139 0 0 8.48 4.04 48 1.884
Now EXAMPLE of being silly was THIS YEAR when after his HORRIBLE starts they placed in AAA and brought him back after ONE start thinking it was that easy.
I am in full support of HUGHES and Kennedy but I RIDE WITH ME TEAM whom I WANT TO WIN!!!
Kids are good but the pressure of this year was extreme so they need to marinate a little bit.
I'm sorry, Cano may have been off the bag in the first inning, but certainly Jeter bears some responsibility for that horrid loss last night...he threw way too high to Giambi and that opened the floodgates. And Mussina was unable to recover from that.
Mussina was very honest in his post game interview when asked about the Jeter error and if it opened the flood gates. He said what happened to him would have happened anyway and he probably would have been gone by the third inning as he felt like he'd never thrown a pitch before when he took the mound. I actually liked his honesty which is somewhat of a change for him.
Any Yankees fan who has watched the team over the past six years or so knows that when Moose gets out of rhythm (delayed starting time) or the defense betrays him he usually comes unglued. At least this time he admitted he would have stunk anyway.
LOM: Yes, Jeter does bare some responsibility for the high late throw but players who have their head in the game especially the second baseman are on the bag to take the throw.
Cano's mental process is light years behind his physical ability. The coaching staff should be blamed for not getting their point across to him about his thought process. At the little league level kids are instructed to thing about what they will do with the ball if its hit to them or reminded by the coaches constantly. IMHO, Cano needs constant reinforcement in the mental aspect of the game.
Uhh you have Bobby meachem at 3b each time I look at him the bad year reminders occur, I know dave Eiland was part of those years as well but he had some luck but Meachem .LAAAAAAAAWWWWWWD Help me with this guy.
Bomber,
Meacham spends more time talking to the umpires than he does actually staying involved in the game. I watched him in spring training and he made some very bad decisions and I'm still not impressed with him.
I've mentioned before that I've been concerned from the start that Girardi doesn't have a solid, experienced veteran in his inner circle.
Meacham seems like he is inattentive then when something happens and he has to get his head back in the game he has to THINK FAST and makes the wrong decision.
I suspect Eiland may be like some of his young pitchers -- did great in the minors but may not be entirely ready for this level, and we don't really know yet how long he will take to adjust or even if he will be able to...
Thompson is by all accounts a very good man with the data that all managers have to take into account these days, like Girardi was for Torre when he was bench coach (in fact Thompson took over that stuff for Torre when the inexperienced Mattingly was inserted as bench coach), but his strengths lie in exactly the same areas where Girardi is already strong.
Where is the guy who covers the parts of the waterfront that Girardi can't reach? Someone who could be for him what Zimmer was for Torre during Torre's early period with the Yanks.
Girardi needs that guy, wherever he is. IMO.
Jim A
when i heard he was coming back as a coach , I said to my self ohh s***t , there are just some people you cannot bring back and one of them is Bobby Meacham, the other is Steve Balboni and Ed Whitson, man Icould name names all day .
Dave Laroche
Andy Hawkins
Omar Moreno
Dennis R.
Brian Fisher
Steve trout
Rafeal Santana (he was a Bum so what he had a ring)
Wayne Tolletson
Bench coach= Tony Pena
Meacham who I don't like as a 3rd base coach will be the 1st to be scapegoated and gone.
ruse,
Perhaps, but I don't really see Girardi and Pena interacting that much. He's usually talking with one of the others I mentioned.
When things get bad one of the veteran Yankees that Girardi played with (like Jeter, Posada, last night it was Pettite) will come spend time at his side. Nice show of support and those conversations may even include useful ideas, but players can't really be part of the staff.