Cabrera rips Yankees fans
From Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times:
The New York Yankees might have the most fans, but they don't have the best fans. So says Angels shortstop Orlando Cabrera.
"They don't appreciate good baseball," he said. "They just appreciate the Yankees beating up on everybody."
The Yankees are on pace to lead the major leagues in attendance for the fifth consecutive season, with fans spoiled by a team that has won 26 World Series championships and has not missed the playoffs since 1993.
But those fans can turn venomous toward opposing players — and even toward their own, when performance is not in line with expectations.
Cabrera played in Boston, another city with a loud and loyal fan base, before joining the Angels. He gives Red Sox and Angels fans high marks for supporting the home team through tough times and applauding great plays by the visiting team.
"In Boston, they admire baseball," Cabrera said. "In Anaheim, those fans are some of the best in baseball. They know you care there. They know you can't do it every day. I appreciate that.
"These people here, they're mean. And they're really mean to the other team."
Cabrera said the hostility in the stands has increased this season, with the Yankees below .500.
"When we came here last year, they were in first place, so it was OK," he said. "Now they're just looking for an excuse."
He is not bothered, he says, by whatever language Yankees fans direct his way.
"When people say [stuff], they only motivate me," he said. "They're bad losers."
Comments (103)
Anthony
Why do you post this garbage ? Do I care what Cabrera in all his ancient wisdom has to say about the Yanks ? Could you post something a little more incisive ? Please!
Anthony:
Ditto ruse's comment.
Not to mention that this topic was discussed by us on the previous thread. I guess you didn't notice.
glad to see cabrera is a yankees fan today, nice error!
Ruse, Diane:
It may shock you to learn not everyone who visits here reads the comments. You don't think a blog that caters to Yankees fans should post comments by a major league player about Yankees fans? If you do, fine, and that's what makes America great. Everyone gets to have an opinion. I posted it because it is news-worthy, in my opinion. And as Adam Sandler said in "The Wedding Singer," "I have the microphone, so you will listen to every damn word I have to say!"
Or not. Some may choose to scroll on by.
Quote from Redsox Fan named SouthernBoSox - a disciple of lucifer.
"They never get calls.
Never ever"
Cabrera isn't good enough to say something like that or for us to even respond to.
Reiber, many fans here are increasingly changing over to blog forums with sports writers that know how to entertain fans, that know the difference between gossip and sports news, that can separate personal prejudices from doing their job. I notice you are the same sports writer who refused to post the Yankees lineup on the Mets blog when the two teams played against each other last week. Bad move, Reiber, very unprofessional.
It's obvious you and Kat only post Yankees updates when the Yankees are losing. Kat is half-asleep most of the time, but when she makes an occasional appearance, she reports only bad news and losing updates. She calls the team "YOUR YANKEES" (how bad is that?)
But I blame Newsday for their inability to assign sport writers that are Yankees fans. It's clearly obvious you and Kat are not. When most of the fans leave this blog for a true professional one, then Newsday will look like ineffective bloggers. And it IS a big deal, since blogging is THE most popular activity on the entire Internet. Newsday will pay eventually when their numbers speak louder than your words.
Can we ever put up more than one run per inning? What happened to the league leading offense?
The one that led the league in runs scored like 3yrs straight!!
This blog has certianly lost lots of its luster since Baumbach got replaced.
It's painfully obvious to all of us that Kat O'Brien is in over her head and Rieber is an ego-maniac.
So many better Yankee blogs than this one and more and moer people are realizing it by the day.
Peace out.
Rieber-
While your here is there any way you can have Kat relieved of her duties?She is the worst Yankee blog host out there. She hardly ever posts anything on here and you can just tell she does not care. She posts more about her personal life then the Yankees. Please can we have either yourself or Jim take this blog back.
On another note Orlando Cabrera is a nobody. In a year with Kyle Fransworth and now him speaking up I wonder who's next? We don't have the best fans and I suppose the Angels do? Go to the L.A area and ask Dodger fans what they think of the Disney team. The Angels can win the world series every year and you will still see more Dodger hats there. Sorry we don't use voodoo monkeys to rally our team.
UPDATE: Yankees are winning 2-1 in the bottom of the 5th and Mussina looks very sharp. He just gave up the first and only run this inning.
NEWS: Yankees brass will be meeting with the Commissioner's office concerning the tremendous number of blatantly bad calls by the umpires this season. While this move can't change past games, it is hoped that action will be taken to insure that umpires are more diligent in the future.
Nieves delivered BOTH RBI's today.
Great play by Robbie Cano in top 6. He had a double and scored a run.
Melky also had a hit today and just made a great play in the outfield, colliding with Matsui and knocking him over, but Matsui is okay and so is Melky.
Mussina threw just 6 pitches in the 6th inning. He's up to 85 pitches, 58 for strikes. Still looking sharp.
See, Kat, we don't need you today, since the Yankees are winning.
Nieves delivered BOTH RBI's today.
Great play by Robbie Cano in top 6. He had a double and scored a run.
Melky also had a hit today and just made a great play in the outfield, colliding with Matsui and knocking him over, but Matsui is okay and so is Melky.
Mussina threw just 6 pitches in the 6th inning. He's up to 85 pitches, 58 for strikes. Still looking sharp.
See, Kat, we don't need you today, since the Yankees are winning.
AJ
I wasn't here during the days of "Baumbach Dynasty" that was this blog so I've nothing to really reference between Kat's and Jim's job performance. I will say however there seems a growing contingent of people who do not think Kat is competent or atleast not when compared to Jim.
That said why do you all insist on making your complaints on the blog and not Newsday itself?
You do it on the blog and it's like calling somebody who's obese "a fat ass"-right to their face...I don't wish to be moral authority but it seems like common decency to make these complaints elsewhere.
Don't make me go all "Donna" on your A$$
Bullpen is Bull$hit. And the offense is anemic. Their is soo much wrong with this team it's hard to know where to start.
Put this in context...
Nieves had the only 2 rbi's all day so far. Giambi/Matsui/Abreu are disgraceful and I believ may be toast. Ditto that with Damon. When they're all signed to longterm idiot contracts what can you do?
Watch the Mets for 3 yrs?
I hate the NATIONAL LEAGUE!!!
By the time these contracts expire Jeter will be 37 Mo will 42 Posada elsewhere you get where I'm going here?
Maybe it really is over.
well, well, well, well, well, Torre takes Mussina out after 95 pitches -- WHY????? I saw it coming from a mile. Proctor then walks in 2 runs and now we are losing. Yes, you heard that right, folks, he WALKS IN THE TYING RUN AND THE GO AHEAD RUN. Tell me why, why, why, why, why Mussina couldn't finish this inning? WHY WHY WHY WHY WY?????????????????????????????????????????????
It's unprecedented: Torre was BOOED when he came out to get Proctor. Angels lead 4 to 2. Yes, say goodbye to another game, and to the season. Farewell. It was horrible for the short time it lasted.
Torre's quick hook and Proctor's failure to throw strikes spells doom.
10 game road trip vs Toronto,Boston,Chicago coming up.If the Yanks don't go at least 7-3 the chance of NY getting in the postseason is about next to zero
Torre needs to be axed !
wow, you hear the crowd as Torre walked back to dugout after yanking proctor? i'll do my best impression of those fans...
"BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
ah cant wait to hear post game after this loss..."we are frustrated, we will get going, we need a win streak, blah blah blah"
HEADS NEED TO ROLL!
DISGRACEFUL!!!
SICKENING!!!!!
HORRENDOUS!!!!
PATHETIC!!!!!!
DEPRESSING!!!!
Toronto is winning
Baltimore is winning
Tampa Bay is winning
Boston will win against last place Texas
Mets are winning
And the Yankees are losing.
Gee, what the hell else is new? These games have become depressing. Now I know why people become fair weather fans.
LOL, cabrera respects Sox fans?
The same fan base that went moire nuts than ive ever heard when Moose's perfecr game got broken up in Fenway several years ago?
Not one bit of applause for him, just outlandish cheering for the fact that Everett(?) broke it up.
"In Boston, they admire baseball"...indeed
It's still not over, I love how you guys give up so easily.. maybe OC is right.. I am disgraced to say I am a fellow yankees fan along with you people.
Moose should have finished the inning. If Proctor would have come in the 8th, he would have been fine. You can't pull a close to perfect pitcher in the middle of the inning just because he walks his first guy of the night and then expect the bull pen to be perfect. You can't exhaust your bull pen every day and expect them to perform. Torre pulling Mussina was a fatal error. Angels made an example of that when they left Lackey in to get out of his own mess in the 8th. Just horrible.
whats not over Chris? todays game that relief blew?, the wild card chase?, or the division race?
Chris, it's OVER. The game is OVER, the season is OVER. Yankees are now 6 games below .500 and this Yankees team is NOT coming back this game, they're not coming back this season. Face it. There are too many teams that are doing much, much, much, much better, with managers not making such stupid calls. I think Torre is retiring from baseball after this year and just looking to stick it to Steinbrenner for old time sake. No manager can be this BAD!!!
Darn, I missed it- is it true Torre got booed? Wow. He needs to go now, but we'll most likely have to wait until the end of this tough season.
Michael Kay can't believe the fans booed Torre. Hello? Pitching mismanagement! Clippard the other night. Mussina today. He's blown his bullpen this year as he has done in recent years. If the Yankees could let Stengel go, so can Torre.
Miguel
LMAO
Chris-WAKE UP!!
Did you think Hideki was going to save us hit a bomb of John Lackey who owned him all day? HAH maybe Abreu will "snap out of it"
Diane is right Jeter and Posada can not carry all this dead weight. You knew Derek was going get a big hit-that's what he does. But who cares when Hideki 0'fer is trying to pull a ball that's a foot outside to end the inning?
Chris it's not "giving up" it's called paying attention.
The stadium is a friggin mausauleum. And I can't blame any of 'em. This team is a complete joke.
I'm gonna stick by my prediction I made in April that Torre will be fired by June 1st.He's in panic mode and this Yankee team is slowly starting to slip away from him. They see what he's doing on the field.His missteps.His tunnel vision.His lack of energy.
Lackey stays in for 105 pitches and I won't be surprised to see him in the 9th. That move by Torre is the horse that broke the camel's back with this team. It has now become hopeless. Even the wild card is out of reach. Forgetting this season in May may sound extreme, but the other teams just have too much going for them. Yankees can't win more than two in a row (their record is three in a row this season). It just gets worse.
make that a straw, not a horse.
start spreading the news....
Geez, hope the Boss isn't upset with a sweep at home this weekend. We havent seen him upset yet this year, right?
When a pitcher is going as great as Mussina was, you leave him as long as you can. You don't pull him after 95 pitches in the middle of the 7th inning because of his first walk of the day. What the F is wrong with Torre?
Maybe this psychopath K-Rod will pull a "Scott Proctor" and walk his way to a loss and thus we avoid the sweep.
new proposed line-up
Cabrera -cf
jeter-ss
matsui -lf
arod-3b
posada- c
cano- 2b
shelly duncan- rf
trip A player - DH
minky - 1b
girardi - coach
ruse - honestly think Torre will be gone in 2 weeks? with clemens coming back...you think General george has balls enough to fire him?
I don't know but this K-Rod guy looks like he was just released from the mental ward nomsayin...
Let's see them screw this rally up.
MLB has the gall to report that the Angels "chased" Mussina. What a lie. Torre chased Mussina.
The Yankees are losing games more than other teams are winning them from us. We are just so damn charitable, aren't we?
If we lose now, Torre is gone.
-Big Stein
this is torture
Everyone's gone. From Torre to Rieber!
What is that annoying clacking sound in the background that the Yankees use these days? It almost sounds like it's saying Yankees suck, Yankees suck. Bring back the old Dao, Dao and Charge, Charge from the winning days. At least the old sounds got the crowd involved. Does anyone else notice this?
Worst season ever!!!
Yeah, the Angels win with two f**king walks. How much lower can we go?
Since the season is obviously finished, can't they bring up Thompson? Put him in RF. Put Damon on the DL, move Abreu to the bench, let Cabrera play CF regularly. Bring up Phillips to DH and platoon him with Abreu or Giambi at DH.
Jim S, that's a great suggestion. Forget this season and let's see what the farm system can do for us for next year. Heck, they might start winning games for us this season. And we don't need Clemens now. Just a waste of money.
MIGUEL
June 1st is this coming Friday.
Clemens may be to little to late.He is to little to late !
You can't rest the season on the back of a soon to be 45 yr old.
Time to break in a new Manager.Clean house.
Best thing that can come from this season is seeing the young players we have in our system. Call them up, let them play, see what they can do.
It's so pathetic that we're expecting Clemens to be our savior, and chances are he'll be pitching when we're 15 games out.
this game:
previous posters touched upon the many MANY shortcomings this game unveiled (again) - abreu (who shouldn't be anywhere near the lineup), damon, matsui (should be traded, still has value but is done) etc.
i want to focus on one thing that for me signals that this team is not only finished, it doesn't deserve sympathy.
9th inning, jeter batting, tying run on 3rd. the stadium finally alive and pumping.
and where are the yankee players? sitting on the dugout bench, not standing at the railing cheering - where they bloody should be!! you know that if it were a-rod's or giambi's at bat, jeter would be right there glued to the railing cheering his team-mate. but the rest can't be bothered to stand up and cheer. i was disgusted, DISGUSTED, by this lack of team spirit.
this team is now full of "me first" and "me only" players, most brought here by a failing GM who knows next to nothing about talent or baseball for that matter.
a new GM must come in and CLEAN THIS HOUSE completely!
I repeat. The Yanks need a bat more than anything else. DL Giambi and Damon, and trade for a stick, and promote Duncan. If Phelps isn't going to play full-time, he should be offered back to his original team, and that roster spot filled either through trade or promote Phillips and let him play 1st base full time. Doug M. is useless as we need a "stick", not a "glove". Phillips showed last year, he has more "pop" than Doug M. Farns can be used to get us a "stick". Torre should have been fired last Oct. What we are currently seeing, is a rerun of last Oct. A lifeless team, with a Mgr. who is incapable of "lighting a fire" under these players.
Keep those updates coming, Anthony. You're doing a great job! You too, Kat Lady!!!
Roy
The way you maneuver in our fantasy league I'd have absolutely no problem giving you Cashman's job.
ROY FOR GM!!!
Let's Celebrate everyone . As a lifelong Yankees Fan, It's time to rebuild Wohooo!!!! Yankees 2007 Season are Over..
Murderer's Row Plus Cano?
Glad to see it was another day at the office for the Dead Bats Society
Death Row plus Cano
Time to blow this thing up!
DL Giambi, it's quite obvious that he's hurting and not helping the team.
Move Abreu-A real contending team could use him. Maybe he is one of these guys that needs a change of scenery every year.
Farnsworth-Nice glasses-Love the fact he is more concerned about looking GQ then going out there and dominating with the stuff he has.
It's like beating a dead horse, but this team takes on the personality of its manager-OLD and TIRED with NO PASSION.
I find it laughable that the team scores 2 runs up until the 8th, both on hits by a guy who had one hit all year. Ninth inning roles around and its like, Hey boys, We've got a game going here.
I've never been so disgusted in my life.
Losing has become acceptable in the Bronx. Nobody has taken the fall for what has gone on, I guess when you sell 50 thousand tix for every game whats the big deal if you win or lose? Fans are coming out spending the money right. Just call us the new lovable losers of MLB!
Gil,
I noticed the bench too. Just sitting on their butts. Torre was just sitting there looking down. Talk about surrender. We need a Martin type to light some fire, kick some dirt- like all the calls this year. Torre is worn down and beat like the rest of the team.
What has to be done is clear:
Damon and Giambi to the DL
Abreu and Matsui given time off
Bring up the farm system and let's see what they can do
Mix up the lineup
Torre must go, sooner the better
Cashman must go, sooner the better
Why should Cashman go? Because George forced him to sign dead weights? What did you expect us to get back for Randy Johnson?What did you expect back for Jared Wright? He removed dead weight and got fair players at best in return. If your gonna blame anyone blame George. Cashman wasn't around in the 80's when Steinbenner ran this team into the ground. Now it is just all the bad contracts that George threw money at that are catching up to us.Reading this blog made me realize how many fair weather Yankee fans there are on here. When the times get tuff stick with it. There will be brighter days in the future and it is a disgrace then when the Yankees will go to a series in the future all the bandwagon fans will come out and pay top dollar for those seats and take them away from the real Yankees fans.
AJ
All I hear among fellow bloggers is their concern for a team that seems to be headed nowhere.
No one's abandoning ship !
I survived the 1965-1975 and 1982-1994 drought years I have and always will be an avid Yankee fan thru thick and thin.
Torre should put Matsui back in the 5th or 6th hole where he belongs.Let Jeter bat 3rd move Cano into the 2 hole.
I wonder if Andruw Jones is available and what he'd cost ? He's struggling and in his walk year, Bobby Cox has moved him down in the lineup much the same way Torre moved Abreu down. The Braves could use help in the outfield ?? Just another among many thoughts on how to improve this lethargic team.
AJ,
Cashman signed Pavano. He traded Johnson and Sheffield for people he knew had injury problems. Where are they? INJURED! He foolishly counted on Pavano. He stocked a team with a pathetic bench. Yes Steinbrenner has money, but he has been out of the loop for so long, this is all Cashman's doing. It's not like when Steinbrenner ran them into the ground in the '80's. Steinbrenner was hand on then. Not for a few years now. This IS Cashman's fault. And no I am not a fair weather fan. Just a pissed off one.
perhaps look to Trip A and filter in some young blood.
giambi and abreu are dead-weight right now. platoon cabrera and damon, minky and phelps.
AJ te al
being a fan doesn't mean being a drone. when you have people on your team, or running your team, who are clearly incompitent, you call it out. when your GM has no plan, you call it out. this is not a storm we have to weather, it's a team built in sin by someone who is clearly not equiped for the job. the fact that cashman right now works for the yanks doesn't mean he's proof to criticism.
i have been a knicks fan since the early 80's, through thick and thin, does that mean i'm not allowed to think that dolan is by far the worst owner in sports? come on...
i think people who are caught up in the cashman spin forget that he constructed a 200 million dollar team that is right now 1 game ahead of the devil rays (around 25 million payroll). most of the reasons for this debacle were signed solely by cashman.
let's be practical. we have a very tough road trip coming up. two rookies going up against the jays, then the sox at fenway. cashman good be gone by next week, and i would love it. let the purge begin.
RUSE-
I like the Braves\Jones trade suggestion. I assume Damon would go to LF, (when healthy), Matsui to DH, and DL Giambi. The Braves have always loved Proctor, or maybe we could trade them their old "Saver" Farns in a package. The Yanks would probably then sign Jones long term. A good deal for the Yanks both short and long term. Your right. None of us "die hards" giving up.
ROY
Moving Damon to LF would help save his wheels.Dh Matsui.Suspend Giambi.
Why is Chris Britton at Triple A Scranton?
15 games
5 saves
0.78 ERA
23 IP
26 SO
1.26 WHIP
He certainly is capable of replacing Visciano.The Yanks traded for him why not use him ?
Orlando C. is so wrong. We have great fans. Again, the standing ovation for Ted Lilly when he hit Scott Spezio in the head with a fastball. That's GREAT baseball. And the fans, as in Ancient Rome, roared.
Those Angels can be so silly!
So the Yankees don't want Todd Helton and Brian Fuentes? No interest?
Por que?
Hmmm ... Is The Cash Man a bit too hooked?
Helton is one of the best players in baseball ... he was a super QB over Peyton Manning at Tennessee.
Great hitter.
Uber-Christian, which means he can hang with Mo and Andy.
Fuentes: Lefty and a pretty good pitcher.
Yes indeed, we can trade Farnsworth and Giambi for them ... right now! This minute even. Straight up.
Oh but The Cash Man is not interested. I see ... well, he knows what's best, right?
Oh and Josh Hamilton has tools like a young Griffey Jr. Ah ... why sign him for nothing, when we can pay 16 mil for Abreu.
I totally agree with Cabrera.
I'm so glad he was not afraid to speak the truth.
Before I always thought Yankee fans were classy and the cream of the crop but ever since coming here to this blog, I see nothing but ignorant and hypocritical fans.
If Red Sox fans boast about their team, then they're running the mouths but when Yankee fans do the same, it's call being confident.
Garbage. The Yankees and their idiot fans (with me being the few exception here.)
By the way, what happened to the "it's still early, we will come back" people now?
I thought things were going to get better.
I guess Clemens will come back and throw nothing but shutouts and the Yankees will win every one of his games (even if he will only give you 6 innings).
What if Kat O'brien married Jim Kaat?
Then she'd be Kat Kaat.
Eric
You should cut the E and R from your name and add a D to the front and a K to the end.
your an idiot eric! no one wants you here!
A-Lo
Todd Helton is on the wrong side of 30yrs of age no? I'd take him in the short but not long term.
I like the Ruse/Roy idea but I don't think you could gift wrap Abreu and send him anywhere with the way he's playing right now. I'm no Farnsworth fan but if we get rid of him and Proctor who do we have left when talking about an Atlanta deal?
Ruse/Roy I like A. Jones long term but he's scary right now. I own him in a lot of leagues right now and he's making Abreu's batting average look tolerable in comparison. I see 0-4 on from him atleast 4 of 6 days but yeah the other 2 he's 2-3 and homerun or 2.
the yanks should keep cashman.....that way they can suck for years
I'm as disappointed as the rest of you are but Orlando Cabrera or any opposing player has a right to speak his mind. The players are entertainers and should not be cursed at by the fans.
The Yankees are having a very bad start and some players, I'm afraid are breaking down physically such as Damon and Giambi. Joe doesn't deserve to be booed. He has managed the bullpen like this since he came here,4 WS wins in 6 trips no one was complaining then. Proctor walks two guys gives up a double. The fans blame Joe. He's stuck with the players that are not performing. So, if he were to avoid the players not performing than we would have to forfiet the games. He most show loyality to a certain extent. This is where I differ with Joe. You must bench Giambi the guy is 3 for 40 with no power. Damon should go to the DH. Put Melky in CF and leave him there unless Damon needs to give some outfielders a dayoff. His arm is so bad that he can't throw on a fly to homeplate 200' a little league HR but he is an offensive asset which should be utilized. Pitch the young kids and show some faith in them keep them in the game. Dump Viscianio for Britton. Dump Meyers for Henn. This is our transition year, anyway. We can still get the wildcard. Phelps should play at least 50% of the time. He's big and strong. Forget Helton, he's 33 how many more 33 yr olds do we need to underperform. Matsui 4 at bats, he hit all outside pitches weakly to the rightside, hello where the $% is Long the hitting instructor. I see Matsui sitting in the dugout by himself with no Long ever talking to him
Lastly, if the fans believe booing the team will get them to play than its their right but I truly believe they know little about this game and are not true fans of the team or the game.
If I had to guess, I'd say Long is the first one to go.
I never understood why Chambliss was let go in the first place.
PTRS and Anonymous, thanks for proving my point.
PTRS and Anonymous, thanks for proving my point for me.
Just spoke to Rubenstein: Torre out, Mattingly in.
Eric
You contribute nothing and are a worthless bastion of negativity.
You've been this way all season. You come here to do nothing but whine and bitch.
Leave us alone
This just in...
Loverboy and Sugar Ray have BOTH offered there respective songs "When it's Over" to the NY Yankees to be played at home games alternating between innings to get the team motivated.
Oh, there's an option to be used next year as well.
Here's the real problem when Torre takes Mussina out for a RP. It's his choice of who he brings in! He brings in Proctor to face this Kendrick guy. Kendrick is 2 for 2 off Proctor with a pair of 2B. It was a bad match up. So what does Kendrick do? Why, he hits another 2B off Proctor! Then, Proctor's confidence was jolted and he loses focus of the strike zone. Torre doesn't have a clue about who and when to use players, especially the bullpen. He should of picked Bruney, or someone else that matched up better with Kendrick, to come in for Mussina, and then brought Proctor in for the 8th. Check the match up charts before making these type of moves. This crap is ridiculous!
First off, I'll leave when I want to and certainly not because you say so.
I have been here way before you, just remember that and generally have no problem until a few Johnny-come-latelies who all of a sudden thinks they are running the show.
If you don't like what I have to say, that's one thing but I could very easily say the same about you.
I may very well take a negative slant but that's because the situation with the Yankees all season have been just that.
Now, if they were 35-15 right now and leading the league by 10 games, then maybe you have a point but they're not, not even close.
You of all people should be telling anyone else they don't contribute when all you offer is nothing but a bunch of imbecile ranting and nonsense garbage.
Judging from how you talk and what you usually say, I feel fairly confident that you represent the typical, dumb, obnoxious, rowdy hooligan that gives the other pleasant Yankee fans a bad name.
It's no wonder we're the most hated team in the country with classless loud mouths just re-affirming their beliefs.
By the way, I have already become bored with this place with people like you pretty much taken over and was already posting less and less but just because of you, I think I will now stick around so more.
Cabrera is absolutely right on the money!!!! The rest of the nation is rooting for the Yankees to lose for the sole purpose of seeing their fans act like little babies. Hey babies! get use to it!!!! it's going to be a long hot summer with your team on it's way to being 20 games out!!!
The rest of the nation is loving every single minute of it!!!!!!!!! Maybe you can win one in Toronto, but you'll probably get swept again! You're definately going to get swept again in Boston next weeknend!!!!!!
The ironic part Mr. Baseball is that the Yankee team themselves are actually a bunch of classy guys over the years.
It's the few bad apples fans, as exemplified by some people here, ruin it for everyone.
RICK KEYES
I agree with you 100 %.Torre goes to the same well to often.Bruney has been their most consistent RH out of the bullpen.If you need a SO he's the guy.What message is Torre sending to his pitchers ?
He showed absolutely no confidence in Tyler Clippard on Friday instead he brings in a Triple A starter who is ill suited to pitch out of the bullpen in that situation.Way to much pressure for the kid who hadn't pitched in well over a week.Then instead of giving Mussina an opportunity to get Kendrick out turns to Proctor who just isn't the lights out pitcher Torre thinks he is.Torre in my humble opinion cost the Yanks the opportunity to win on Friday and Sunday.Frankly I'm tired of hearing what the Yanks did 7-10 years ago that's quickly become the distant past.
Your. Team. Stinks.
It was Mariano Duncan who coined the Yankees' 1996 rally cry, "We play today, we win today, das it..."
When it comes to today's Yanks, it's more like "We play today, we lose today, das it."
And that's certainly what it feels like.
The Yankees have now lost 11 out of 16 and eight out of 12 of those so-called "measuring stick" games against the White Sox, Mets, Red Sox and Angels.
Yesterday's 4-3 loss was yet another excruciating episode of the Yanks not playing a complete game. Mike Mussina pitched well, but the bullpen -- bull's eye on Scott Proctor in the Top 7th -- collapsed.
Joe Torre pulled Moose with one on, one out in the 7th. His pitch count was at 95.
Would I have pulled Mussina? No. But there have been times when Mussina has been kept in longer and then blew the lead himself.
But as long as Joe was going by the numbers, didn't he know Howie Kendrick was 2-2 lifetime (2 doubles) against Proctor (now 3-3, 3 doubles)?
Let's face it. Three at bats is not much of a sample. No matter, Proctor has to come in and do the job.
After Kendrick doubled, I thought Proctor had pinch hitter Erick Aybar struck out on an 0-2 curve. He didn't get the call.
Nonethless, he couldn't put him away. And he then walked Shone Figgins.
Brian Bruney was needed to put out the fire.
In the end, the Yankees again woke up too late -- and couldn't get that last big hit. I blame Johnny Damon in the bottom of the 9th for this one. First and second no out, 3-2 count. A walk or a hit and I'm convinced Yanks would've pulled this one out. While I feel Damon is trying, I also get the feeling sometimes he's still mentally on the Red Sox.
Damon is a gamer, but his body is beaten and battered.
I'm not going to blame Derek Jeter for not getting a two-out hit.
Just a thought: Because the Yankees had rested Damon and Jorge Posada (who singled in the 9th), the Bombers for a day felt like they had a real bench. Wouldn't it be nice to have professional hitters available every day during crunch time?
What's disappointing is while Jeter was battling Frankie Rodriguez with two out and first and third, did anybody see ONE Yankee on the top step rooting him on?
Meanwhile, Brian "On the big hook" Cashman needs to make some moves now...Fortify the bench, release Mike Myers and Miguel Cairo, trade Kyle "100 miles an hour" Farnsworth to either the Astros or the Phillies -- and yes, bring back Bernie.
If there's anybody out there who doesn't think that move was strictly personal, then they aren't paying attention. Bernie is a switch hitter, who ironically right now is probably healthier than Damon and hungrier than Abreu.
And this is no Bernie pity party. Last year he hit 12 HRs, drove in 61 runs and batted .281. He had 118 hits.
As for the $1 million Bernie contract? Hey Cash-Man, you're already shelling out $4 million for Jaret Wright NOT to play for the Yanks and TO play (or be on the DL ) for the Orioles, a team in your own division.
What I would do short term is call up Andy Phillips and play him at first with Mientkiewicz, put Melky in left and make Matsui the DH. I would DL Giambi. As for first base, did you notice slick-fielding lefty Carlos Pena is batting over .300 for the Rays? Yanks once had him, played him in the minors and then released him.
Anyway, when Roger Clemens comes back within the next 2 weeks, the rotation will be Clemens, Andy Pettitte, Chien-Ming Wang, Mussina -- and either Clippard or DeSalvo. Let one of those rookies be the long man.
And being that the Yanks are in dire straits here, I will suggest a move that Joe will not resort to -- and many fans -- will NOT agree with. But it worked for Terry Francona back in 2004 when he was desperate and the Yanks choked away the ALCS to the Red Sox.
Ready? From here on in, Mariano Rivera is not the CLOSER. He is the FIREMAN. Like the days of Sparky Lyle and Goose Gossage, I want Joe to bring in Mariano for the most important outs...not the last three outs.
Sparky Lyle wasn't a closer. He was a "fireman," who ended rallies whenever needed. It says here that Joe Torre should use Mariano the same way.
Today, that would have been in the top of the seventh.
Crazy you say? Is it any crazier than the fact that Mariano didn't even make it into the game? Or the fact that with the game in the balance, Proctor was your man?
Call me nuts, but I'm not ready to give up.
And I can't just sit here and do nothing either.
Say it ain't so Comatose Joe. Not only did Torre cost the Yankees the Friday and Sunday games...he is the main reason why the Yankees have not won since 2000. The moment he decided not to bunt on big mouth Schilling in 2004 he should have been gone. Can you imagine Zimmer not urging Torre to have the first 2-3 batters of the game to bunt to see if Big Mouth could actually make the plays. Of course not - because it was the smart thing to do. And one thing clueless has demonstrated is that he is anything but smart. Perhaps he actually believes his HOF managerial press. With all the pitching moves he makes he must be trying to prove that his pitchers are miserable - therefore taking the pressure off him. Well Comatose - the real fan knows that the pitching is miserable because you insist on bringing them in every game. By the way 2 more stupid moves - pitching Mariano in the last game of the Mets series in a non save situation...and then not having him available for the Red Sox game the next day. And then when he should have taken a pitcher out - he leaves poor Chase Wright in the give up 4 homers in a row vs. the Red Sox. So let me understand he leaves a rookie pitcher who spent 6 years in single A!!! in to get clobbered and effectively take the Yankees out of the game. Wright must have really pissed off Comatose. You just can't make this stuff up. Where is the old Steinbrenner who would fire managers like some people change socks. Please George get rid of Torre - the fans will not be mad. Torre has used up all his goodwill.
Boy I am busy for a few days and the loonies find someone else to spew their hateful barbs at. I feel left out now. Eric I am jealous.
How Kat or Rieber- why not post some new blog entries and updates?
It's crazy the format of this blog.
Top 5 reasons season is over
1. Bullpen is already burned out:
Yeah, you can trade for other BP guys, but as Theo said the other day in an interview, those type of good BP guys are not that easy to find nowadays. They are easier to trade for, but not as plentiful as the past. Procotor's arm is going to be dead by the end of June. Bruney will follow that same route as well. Farmsworth is useless, Myers is a specialist along with Villone, although Villone pitching the best right now, and Mo is older and not as superman like.
2. Starting Pitching is not as good as we thought:
Nobody trusts Mussina, period. Pettite is the best pitcher for the Yankees right now...W*ng is a good pitcher, but has been too inconsistent. The acquisition of Clemens would have helped 3 weeks ago, but by the time he gets to the Yankees, they might be 10 games out of the wildcard. There should be ZERO talked about the Red Sox and catching them for the division. Drew and Ramirez are not even hitting for the Sox, they lost Beckett for 2 weeks and still pick up another 2 games since he went on the DL. I mean, Tavarez has pitched better than our #3-#5 guys.
Oh, and BTW...Clemens did NOT look good against a light hitting Sea Dogs minor league team. He would have gotten hammered by any MLB team in that game. The pitcher people were impressed with and talked about was Buchholz, the Sox #1 pitching prospect right now. Clemens will be better than any #4 or #5 guy the Yanks have, but that's not good enough. Oh, and didn't Hughes reinjure himself in rehab? Ugh.
3. Yankees hitters are powerful but old:
Jeter scares the crap out of everyone right now, and in a contract year, I see Posada slowing a little but probably having his best year as a Yankee. Arod is going to hit 45 HR's but he'll be back to doing it when it does not matter with the pressure mounting to get a win. Giambi, Matsui, Abreu, and Damon are all aging veterans that can give you something on days, but on most, look like creaky old men. Looks like the Sox DID make the right call on Damon after all..
4. Joe Torre is suffering from Alzheimers
Sorry, but you need to call it like it is. He is moving to his bullpen quicker each and over outing. Everyone was ripping on Francona being hired as manager, but the guy lets his guys pitch, if, say they walk a guy in the 6th...they have preserved the BP and the BP has pitched very well. You know heads will roll, and Joe's is the 1st to get lopped off this year. He's a great guy that had a great run, but it's over for him.
5. The Red Sox are too good, as are AL Central teams
Think about this for a second. The Sox have beaten up on the good, the bad, and the ugly this year. They took 3 of 4 from Detroit and 2 of 3 from Atlanta when both teams were on rolls. Yeah, they lost 2 of 3 to the Yankees last week, but every team loses to bad teams every so often and they threw their #3-#5 guys. The Twins are not even playing well right now but have theCy Young and MVPon their team with Mauer soon to follow...they also have a very good BP. THEY are in 4th in that division. There are 4 other teams in the central that will have better records than the Yankees before the season is over. Oakland might do the same in the West, because their pitching is so good.
Point is, for the Yankees just to catch the Sox, they need to win .690 clip from here to the end of the year IF the Sox play just a shade under .500 the rest of the way. Not likely.
If the Yankees talk to Clemens by July, and they are not close, I'd BEG Clemens to let us trade him to a team that is contending, and get a few good prospects to start to infuse some youth. I'd then fire Cashman and bring in Billy Beane if you can.
clemens cant even save this sunkin' ship. why would anyone trade for clemens...yankees are the only team that would pay 28 million for 4 month player who is washed up and using there team for his 5th encore...they continue to over spend, rebuild is not in there vocabulary....omar minaya is the man george is better off throwin him 28 million instead on clemens.
I hope that all of you have a nice Memorial Day inspite of the Yanks. It's for our troops and show the flag proudly. They deserve it. One of my work buddies has gotten called back to duty. He ships out in October. I hope and pray that he'll be safe in that "HELLHOLE" over there. He's a nice kid, but he's a kid!!!
What a lousy baseball weekend!
We get good pitching and the hitters take the weekend off. I was really hoping for 2 out of 3 from the Halos, but even 1 win was just too much to ask from this bunch. They looked at too many strikes and got themselves into holes. Abreu is just awful and there's no answer there. Maybe he should try using a lighter and longer bat. Maybe it will increase his bat speed and he can reach the outside part of the plate. If he was hitting, even just a bit, he MAY have gotten that call in Saturday's game. I believe the ump punched him out because he's not hitting. That pitch was outside, by a lot!! He goes up there looking to bunt or draw a walk. That's what we get for 16 mil/season.
Giambi needs to be DLed and get that foot fixed: NOW!!! He's 3 for his last 44!!! He's not helping the team! He's not even protecting A-Rod so get him out of there!!!
Damon needs to DH and Melky needs to play. Damon was pathetic on Friday!!!
If I've repeated anything that you guys have said, I apologize. I kept away from the blog because I was too damn ANGRY!!!!!
Also, even though Eric doesn't need my two cents, leave him alone!! He's heartbroken!! Has been since the LDS against Detroit. He wants a fresh start for this team.
Anyway, to Ruse, Cas, Nudge, Lucy, Roy, Diane, Jim A:
HAVE A GREAT MEMORAIL DAY!!!
I'm out!
One more thing:
Cabrerra (OC) has been drinking too much teqila if he thinks Angel fans are among the best in baseball. The minute that the Angels start losing, those fans will be at Laguna Beach playing volleyball, or will head up the 5 to see the Dodgers!
I lived there for 6 years. Those fans suck!
Don't the Angels come back in for another 3 game set? Me thinks that the "OC" has put a bullseye on his back!!!
I have been a Yankees fan for over 40 years and attend at least 20 games a year. I come by here occasionally and read the comments because I enjoy the comments made by these Yankees fans, but I often don't write. However, I am disgusted enough to say something about the outrageous criticism of Yankees fans.
First, Cabrera may have had an issue with one maybe two fans, but there was no reason for him to openly criticize the entire population of fans. Did anyone hear over 50,0000 fans chanting anything at all about the Angels, particularly Cabrera? No, of course not. Cabrera's comments were out of place, and if he can't deal with a negative comment by an opposing fan, he doesn't belong in the game. What a sissy.
Anthony, I was at the game when Spezio got hit. It was not done on purpose and you are mistaken about the crowd's cheers. They cheered when they realized he was OK, not because he was hit. Opposing players get hit quite often and the fans don't cheer injuries. Your false statement is disgraceful and you should stop spreading what amounts to lies about 50,000 Yankees fans looking to see a player possibly killed on their field. Unbelievable.
Eric, you are a troubled young man. I have yet to come here and read anything positive by you. You just seem to enjoy antagonizing decent fans who are trying to be optimistic about their team. There's nothing wrong with that, but there's something wrong with you for objecting to that. Something's just not right with you, fella.
Yankees fans, the team got off to a bad start with all the pitching injuries. The offense and bullpen has been working hard and it's been difficult for them to continue doing so every single game. Offensive players will slump, but these guys can't afford to because they are always carrying the pitchers. When you get off to a bad start like this, sometimes it's hard to recover and bounce back. The Yankees will come back again, if not this year then next. Getting frustrated and angry is expected, but true Yankees fans know how to keep the faith. All the Yankees fans on this site appear to be dedicated, so they will continue supporting the Yankees again. Don't let the negative comments by Yankee haters get you down, though. Those are the people who are used to losing and can't handle winning for too long. We'll be in winning shoes before you know it and they'll be hiding under rocks.