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Typical obnoxious Yankee fan who thinks they are somehow ON the team. And as a Met fan, when you say we should care about "how their team can make the postseason for the first time since losing the 2000 World Series in five games to the Yankees." It is not up to us to get them to the world series..I route for them win or lose.
You act like you are superior cause you route for the team that does make it to October. You didn't pick the team or pay their salaries...why are you so high and mighty?
Advice: 1. Pick a side and stick to it..you went back and forth.
2. Don't pick on Met fans. I have no problem with the Yankees and I respect their talent. I have the problem with obnoxious Yankee fans who think they are superior to everyone else. (A smile did come to my face when the Yanks choked against the Red Sox and the Diamondbacks, and the Angels...I knew the fans felt helpless.)
3. Mariano is not the closer he once was...

Mariano may not be the closer he once was, however he is still the greatest ever, easily. By a country mile.

You're not a Yankee fan by any chance are you Mark? You forgot to mention his stats against the Red Sox, and his blown saves. He didn't pick the song. I'm sure Wagner did.

Ridiculous, try being a little more original. The song is practically trademarked for Mariano Rivera.

Not picking on Mets fans at all. Merely saying there are bigger issues than a song and fans should care more about how Wagner performs on the mound.

Mariano not the closer he once was? Interesting. Yes, he blew two saves early in the season, but overall, in 2005, he posted a 1.38 ERA, his lowest ever. He struck out 80 in 78.1 innings, his best since 2001 when he struck out 83 in 80.2 innings. He saved 43 of 47 opportunities, right on par with his other seasons.

Boston hit .268 against Rivera in 2005 (11-for-41).

I know Rivera didn't pick the song, which is why I wrote that. Wagner picked it when Jeff Bagwell suggested it, so I'm not sure what your point was.

Typical insecure Yankee fan dribble. This is a Yankee/Rivera fan writing on his blog about what Mets fans should and shouldn't worry about???!!! It seems the Yankee fans are the ones it the uproar, not the other way around. Get over yourselves already. Seriously, they actually give this guy money for this? Or was this a fifth grade contest winner's entry? Cause that's about the mentality level here. Jeez.

Yankee fans are simply nervous as they see the city slipping away.....

I think this is nothing more then the Yankee fans being fed up with the Mets getting all of the attention prior to opening day...its a freakin song cmon now who cares...Mariano is and always be the greatest closer in the history of basbeall, and if you yankee fans want to look it at as anything other then Wagners personal preference of song, maybe you should look at it as a compliment to Mo...Billy is not trying to take over the town, hes just doing his own thing, which also happens to be Riveras...Yankee fans should be worrying about more important things like their questionable pitching and egotistical owner....lets go mets!

Its flattering that the mets wanna be like the yankees from the buildin up the offence to the weak starting pitching to now mo's song oo god thats why there the second team in NY.GO YANKEES

There are more important things to worry about than what entrance music Billy Wagner comes in with. I am a Mets fan, I know comparing Billy Wagner to Mariano is not a smart idea, Mariano is the better closer, period, but it does not mean he owns the right to the song. Does he have it copyrighted or something?? Who cares, lets just play ball and drop the petty stuff. Both teams are going to be very good this year, and both closers are going to play a big part in it.

It's just disrespectful.

It's not disrespectful, the guy can pick whatever song he wants to be played when he comes in.
I would liken it to a little brother trying to emulate his big brother which, let's be honest here, the Mets are like the Yankees little brother, no disrespect intended.
I have a ton of respect for the Mets, I mean, they have Willie Randolph as a manger for cryin' out loud, how can you not route for them. I for one will be watching the Mets progress throughout the season.

I honestly don't care as a Yankee fan, but it bothers me that every year I have to hear an obnoxious Met fan with some new slogan talk about how it's their year and then talk about how much they can't stand the Yankees. If you can't stand the Yankees then why emulate their 9th inning tradition? It just doesn't make sense to me. I would think Met fans would be outraged seeing in how they mostly despise the Yankees and want nothing to do with them. But I guess that's not the case. So what's next? Role call from the bleachers? Sinatra after a win? No names on the back of the jerseys? Get your own traditions.

It is almost pathetic though that the Mets do have a tendency to copy everything the Yankees do, but always a year or two too late - kind of like the way Burger King follows and copies McDonald's. No one mentioned their new Spring Training home (Tradition Field vs. Legends Field) or their new TV network as other things the Mets copied from the bombers...

I'm a big Mets fan and agree that the song is no big deal, although it will never remind anyone of Wagner in this town. It belongs to Rivera.

Also, Rivera had a great year last year. If you say he's washed up then you obviously didn't pay attention. Let's hope that Wagner can come close to being the type of closer that Rivera has been over the past 10 years.

This first comment is for the guy who posted at 2:49, mets fan by birth....you know guy we don't "route" for a team, we "root" for them...anyway, this is quite possibly the most ridiculous issue I've ever heard discussed. The guy, Wagner, can come in to whatever song he chooses. Who the hell cares anyway? I honestly think Yankee fans just look for any little thing to pick on mets fans about...and to the guy who said wagner coming in to that song was being "disrespectful", (laur)...dude what the hell are you talking about, disrespectful? disrespectful is cursing at your mom, not having a certain song play when you come into pitch...

ROOT guys, its root...a route is a road you drive on

Thanks for the spelling lessons, geeks! Did I spell that right? I hope so, or I might have to stay after school.

Yes I'm a geek because I know the difference between route and root...

uh, yes, you are. Like people are really concentrating on their spelling. But hey, if you want to look for typos in the postings, be my guest.

I'm an editor..its second nature. MO is a HOMO !!
LETS GO METS !!!

oh and that wasn't a typo, just for the record. Thsi is a typo.

well, that explains it. You're excused.

If they pitched like Mo I wouldn't care if the whole pitching staff were homos.

whatever

Whatever. Let little Billy have whatever song he wants. Everybody knows who the real Sandman is. The Yankees have the Real Sandman in Rivera.

The last time I checked we are in America.. Freedomn to choose!

Please reread the blog. I believe the author took both view points, that of Yankees' and Met's fans. This is a non-issue and is stated as such. Wagner is a good closer in his own right, it is simply too hard to compare other closers to Rivera given his track record. All this will seem trivial during the season and more than likely not be mentioned again

PLAY BALL!!!

hehehehe. It's all I can do these days. Laugh at the Yankee fans. Oh how those poor dolts just don't get it. Lets see, by my recollection, the Yankees have not won a World Series since 2000. Ouch. I'm hurt. The Yankees beat the Mets. Big deal. Hmmm, seems to me like the Yankees have departed from the playoffs and Series to far inferior teams. The Mets and Yanks were evenly matched and lost only because they let the Yankee mystique get to them. Yes, the Red Sox were a great team but since 2000 the Yankees havent had any competition and have chumped each time they were eliminated. I enjoy watch the "Boss" paying so much money to loose. Its great. And his arrogance will outdo himself this year. As far as a song goes, who really cares (wait a minute, didn't Rivera give up the bloop base hit that caused the Yankees to loose to the Diamondbacks....so much for post season ERA). Yes, the Yankees have tons of rings. No doubt they had some of the best teams in history. The second half of the 90's were something else. And it's not the Yankees that other teams fans hate. It's Yankee fans that we hate. Because most Yankee fans don't have a clue and are just riding the band wagon. I have seen my share of co-workers who denied being band wagon jumpers who have quietly stopped rooting for them since they keep chumping. I have been a Mets fan since I was born. Hmmmm, 1969. I was born and the Mets won the series. Coincidence, I'm not sure. I bleed orange and blue. Win or loose, I'm a Met fan.

GET A LIFE PEOPLE, with all thats going on in the world you people are worried about a song?
Why does Rivera deserve respect? Does he put his life on the line daily?. FOOLS

How about we use this forum to talk about how good both the mets and yankees are going to be this year. It will be good for baseball and it will be good for New York. Also, to the guy who said The mets are trying to be like the yankees???? How many players have the yankees signed from the mets to try and imitate the success they had at the time the yankees were bad???? lets see, David Cone, Darryl Strawberry, Dwight Gooden just to name a few. Anyway, I am a die hard mets fan and truthfully I have nothing but respect for the yanks. For what they mean to baseball, their tradition and to New York. However, it looks like the mets are going in the right direction. Here is a question for yankee fans??? Who has the brighter future, Mets or Yankees??? Keep this in mind, the mets have younger players in the starting lineup, starting rotation and the bullpen. What young players besides Wang and Cano do you have???? Head Scratcher right??? Think about it

Im sick of all these Mets fans crying about the "Obnoxious Yankee Fans"......You had your chance in 2000 and blew it.....So don't be mad.........

DARCO>>>>>>>> I don't know about the other met fans but personally, what is obnoxious to me is making a big deal of Billy Wagner using "enter the sandman" as his entrance music. It is really not that serious and there are more important things to worry about.

----hehehehe. It's all I can do these days. Laugh at the Yankee fans. Oh how those poor dolts just don't get it. Lets see, by my recollection, the Yankees have not won a World Series since 2000. Ouch. I'm hurt.------

Why do so many Mets fans use this as an insult. You're making fun of the Yankees because they haven't won in 5 years, while your Mets haven't won in 20 years. This is like making fun of the Lotto winning because they haven't won the Lottery since 5 years ago.

-----The Yankees beat the Mets. Big deal. Hmmm, seems to me like the Yankees have departed from the playoffs and Series to far inferior teams. The Mets and Yanks were evenly matched and lost only because they let the Yankee mystique get to them.-----

Yeah you're right, they only lost to the team that would Win the WS in 2001, 2002, 2003, & 2004. So I guess every team lost to an inferior team in those years. So, the Yankees beat YOUR team but lost to Inferior teams, now what does that say about the Mets?

Let the Mets win something before you go around talking smack about the Yankees. If and when they do, then you can talk smack all you want.

What a joke the mets are. Do they LIKE being the little brother??? Stealing Mo's song?

Beyond classless. Also dumb. How about carving your own image. There's only 9 billion songs out there.

Thats why they will always be second class citizens.

All I have to say is: Nineteen Eighty Six (1986). That's the last time the Mets had a worthy team. Maybe they will win another one soon...since they have practically borrowed former Yankees players and coaches to hopefully give them an edge.

This Bronx bomber fan will ROOT and HOLLA everytime the Yankees take the field. I can't wait for October.

This is why I hate Mets and Red Sox fans...you automatically associate every yankee fan with jumping on the bandwagon. I grew up in the 80's, and the Yankees sucked, and the Mets were the toast of the town for years. I had to put up with thousands of little leaguers fighting over Gary Carter or Dwight Gooden's jersey number...As for who has the brighter future and suspect pitching staff?? Your frontline starter yesterday was the aging Glavine and he is followed up by Trachsel, not too young himself and coming off of back surgery...Victor Zambrano??!? Pedro is still on the shelf and if you are truly honest with yourself you will notice he has only gotten fatter since joining your team...oh, and aside from Heilman...who gets you to Wagner...You shouldn't be annoyed with Yankee fans over Mo's song, you should be annoyed that Minaya traded away Jae So (spelling?) and then Benson...for JORGE JULIO!!! Aside from David Wright...Reyes has a terrible on base percentage for a leadoff hitter and may turn into Ordonez over time, while Carlos Beltran is doing what he has done his whole career before you paid all that dough for him...bat in the .260's...there, I feel better.

----What a joke the mets are. Do they LIKE being the little brother??? Stealing Mo's song?

Beyond classless. Also dumb. How about carving your own image. There's only 9 billion songs out there.---

Are you actually serious? Maybe you should get your facts straight. Billy Wagner has been coming out to Enter Sandman since he has been playing in Houston. It's not like the Mets said, "Hey, let's piss off the Yankees and have Wagner come out to Metallica. Yea, yea we'll definitely do that." Maybe this meeting took a couple of hours but hey, we'll never know. Secondly, do you really feel threatened and hurt by this? It's an entry song. Maybe if Stone Cold Steve Austin came out to "Do you smell what the Rock is cookin'?" it would be an issue. Sounds to me like you care more about closer entry songs than baseball. The real 'joke' is Yankees fans actually caring about this.

Billy Wagner has been using this song for years. Typical Yankee fan nonsense to assume everyone in the universe has a "Pavlovian" response to the song that relates to a Yankee. You might, but we don't. When will you get it? THE WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND THE YANKEES.

"Practically trademarked" for MARIANO RIVERA? Yeah, OK. When I think of Metallica, I REALLY think of Mariano Rivera, who I can practically guarantee never even heard the song before it was assigned to him. Considering I've been listening to this song for about 15 years, THAT'S NOT LIKELY.

If you ask Astros fans, they'd be just as adamant that this is Wagner's song.

come on guys, this isnt the civil war. Billy Wagner is a great closer but lets see what he does in ny. his postseason record isn't even in the same category as riveras. the only thing i care about is enter sandman being played in the bronx in october.

Regardless of all that irrelevant chest-beating, Dave (let's stay on the subject...), the fact remains that Billy Wagner did not "steal Mo's song,"and he's been using it probably just as long as Rivera. You're just *unaware* of that, which of course to Yankee fans somehow negates his entire existence and his right to come in to the same song he's always come in to.

Yankee fans being unaware of something doesn't mean it's stupid, wrong or not really true. Just say "really? Wow, we had no idea. Isn't that a funny coincidence that both our closers use the same song?" Why can't Yankee fans do that? Why does everything have to be a "we rule, you suck" fight? Especially when you're fighting over something you know nothing about? You didn't know. That's understandable. But now that you do, why doesn't that make you revise your opinion?

Just deal with it, recognize you made an error in judgment and move on. Say "oh, we weren't aware that Wagner has used that song for years and didn't just choose it yesterday because he is trying to emulate that well-known heavy metal enthusiast, Mariano Rivera. OUR BAD."

mariano is finished time to change the guard

The only reason the Yankees of the mid to late 90's were even there was because of the sub-par American League East. Up until just 2 or 3 years ago, the AL E was pathetic, with only the Yankees and Red Sox being worthy of respect. So basically, they were able to coast for the season and then turn it on in October. As for this decade, it is still absolutely hilarious that the Yankees keep spending and keep loosing. I love it. Hey George, I have a bridge to sell you. I guarentee it will win you 20 games.

alright all i would like to say is when billy wagner is the MVP of the World Series and a runner up for Cy Young(should have been the Cy Young) as a closer than he can start coming into the real sandman's song

LETS GO YANKEES!!

What A Joke....

So the whole time on this board is to talk about Billy Wagner's entrance music and how he stole it from Mo....? Can't we discuss things that are most important like "wow, the yankees looked good yesterday" or "Wow, the mets pulled off a good opening day win?"

Actually, yes. Sad, but true. This particular comments section is to discuss the ludicrous "column" at the top of it in which we're all supposed to accept that Yankee reality is everyone's reality, and that Billy Wagner decided yesterday to "steal" a song from Mariano Rivera that he had already chosen for himself several years ago, while Rivera had the song--which was almost certainly unfamiliar to him--assigned to him by someone else.

Yup. That's why we're here. All because a Yankee fan who was unaware of the fact that Wagner already used this as his entrance music before coming to NY wrote an ignorant essay without doing any research first, figuring that anything a Yankee fan didn't know couldn't possibly be important.

So now you know!

hey steve, last time I checked, the mets spent alot of money and kept "loosing" also. anyway, the mets made some good moves this off season. its the same story for both teams - starting pitching needs to hold up. both lineups are potent, decent bullpens, great closers getting up there in age. mets - cardinals will be interesting. hey laurie - i was beating my chest a little.

LOL! Yeah, Dave, you kinda were... ;-)

First question....

I could understand a player of lower stature (aka Braden Looper or BJ Ryan) coming to the Mets and first start using that song and people think they are trying to copy Mariano....but this is Billy Wagner....probably the second best closer in the game....(other than Mariano)...

Second.....

Who cares what music is playing when he warms up??

It's a ridiculos argument....and it's not even worth talking about....

Mike and the Mad Dog have completly turned me off to their show.....between the Omar Minaya racial talk and now this crap.....it's pathetic

Two days talking about entrance music is ponderous. Can Mariano even pronounce Metallica? Wagner should never give up the song, he should make them blare it even louder when the Yankees come to Shea. Look how mad the Yankee fans get over the song! Unbelievable! Maybe we should get a 200 year old P.A. announcer also or start injecting steroids into the players like the Yankees do. The Yankee fans are jealous that we have a good team without the eogos (Even Pedro is a great team player!) or the scandles (got 'roids?). It's making them madder everyday that another team is in New York that is willing to buy there players also. Remember people, in today's game, we are rooting for the Emblem of the team, not so much the team as players change uniforms so often today. Except we have some real homegrown exciting players that are cheap and wholesome and talented. A-Rod is amazing but does anyone really like him? I'll take Wright at his Major League minimum salary over A-Rod and his salary anyday. As far as theme songs are concerned, I don't care if they play "Row-row-row your boat" as long as we win. Anyone who cares about such things is worried about the state of their team and losing the glamour it once had. Get a life. Talk about gas prices or the Middle east, theme songs? give me a break!

I think Billy oughta do the honorable thing and not come out to "Enter Sandman" but make a mockery of the whole "controversy" instead. Imagine if he entered with really depressingly slow songs like "Suzanne" by Leonard Cohen or "The Wreck of the Edmund FitzGerald" by Gordon Lightfoot. So what if it doesn't get the crowd pumped, it'll certainly would put opposing batters to sleep! Think of all the easy saves!

Here's the truth, Enter Sandman is associated with Mo as much as "Gonna Fly Now" is associated with Rocky Balboa, that can't be changed by the fact that Billy Wagner happens to use the song as well. Secondly, James Hetfield (singer for Metallica, the band who wrote Enter Sandman) is a friend of both Randy Johnson and Mariano Rivera, both Yankees and both of whom use Metallica to enter a game, Rivera more frequently, as Johnson switches it up occasionally. The reason Hetfield and Mo are friends, because Mo uses Enter Sandman, when the singer of a band becomes friends with you because you use their song, without paying them by the way, then that's how you know you've become permanently associated with the song.

its one of those things like with gretzky's 99... its unofficially untouchable and anyone who would take it would appear to be comparing themselves to him.

Who cares? It's just a song.

Who cares about what song is played. Remember who let the dogs out? Every team picked up on that. Maybe that is what Wagner should play. The only problem I see with the same song is when the Mets play the Yankees.

Why don't you Met fans get a bit more original. That has been Mo's song for 10 years now and their is only 1 Mo. Wagner, he can take his 10 postseason ERA and 0 rings and shove it. Typical Mets trying to be like the Yankees.

typical yankee fans not knowing the facts. as per Metallica's manager Billy Wagner used this song 3 years before Rivera. If Rivera can recite once verse of a metallica song, he can have it all to himself. The man hasnt put together a whole sentence since he's been here, Stop whining Yankee fans and worry more about that antique pitcing staff.

Honestly who cares its just a song. Wagner has been using it for years and listens to Metallica. Neither one of them choose the song, it was given to them. I may be a Mets fan, but I'm also a baseball fan. Yes Rivera is the best closer of this generation and only being 27 I can not comment on other closers I did not see. Rivera will be a hall of famer and baring any injuries so will Wagner. Both will end up with 400 plus saves. So as they share the New York spotlight let them share a song. Yankee fans need to stop if its okay with Rivera then it should be okay with you.

this talk about the theme song is ridiculous....Yeah Rivera has had it a long time but Wagner has had it longer go ask Jeff Bagwell...Yeah I know the Stros don't count in the Yankees universe...Another thing is that James Hetfield has season tixs to the METS which makes him a fan and he says Wagner should play it whenever (It's in the papers)....So let the argument stop..Rivera has it by association and Wagner gets it b/c he was given it and the lead singer for the band is a Mets fan

I find it funny that Mike and the Mad Dog and all these Yankee fans are upset that Wagner is using the song. Wake up folks... he's been using it longer than Rivera has. So why the hell should he change!? I'm glad Rivera has been so passive about this... hell he doesn't even like Metallica. The Mets also just got the endorsement from Metallica's manager to use the song. So end of discussion.

I had heard that when Billy Wagner was with Houston, he had a different song but Jeff Bagwell made him change it to "Enter Sandman". So Wagner starts putting up a lot of saves in '97 and the song probably helped him out psychologically. '97 also was the year Rivera started becoming the man too, so its pretty coincidental. Of course some Yankee fans are going to crow, cry and holler about it along with the shaving policy and the Mets having their own network. One guy earlier here said the Mets are even copying the Yanks in having a big offense and a shaky and banged up pitching lineup. Thats stupid, it just happened that way for both teams. I wouldn't be suprised if Wagner changes to a different Metallica song "Seek and Destroy" would be great; just out of respect and just to drop this issue

Respect who????

When did the Yankees or their fans ever respect the Mets???

Georgey signed:

Tom Seaver (Announcer)
Dwight Gooden
Darryl Strawberry
David Cone

All of which had GREAT success with the Mets.
Georgey signed them WITH THE STRICT INTENTION to irk the Mets and their fans.

ENTER SANDMAN was brought with Wagner and is NOT with INTENTIONS to irk the Yankees or their knuckle-dragging fans.

I am a Yankee fan, and I could care less what music Wagner or anyone else plays. Royalties are paid to the musicians, not the players, so it doesnt matter to me. I want the Yanks to win, and I dont mind if the Mets do also... no reason to hate the Mets as far as I am concerned, nor to insult their fans. It should be a great summer for baseball in NY, and I would love it if we meet in the fall classic again.

This is a silly controversy. When you're a Yankees fan at Yankee Stadium, yes the song is special to you. But the Yankees don't own the song and it's arrogant to think it belongs to the Yankees when you are outside Yankee Stadium. I understand the tradition it has when you're in the Bronx. But the Mets are a separate team, and what they do in their Stadium has nothing to do with the Yankees. Wagner was using the song first, and he shouldn't have to change his style to suit a few obnoxious fans who think they have the right s to everything. There's no reason the song can't be played in both Stadiums. Both pitchers have no problem with the other one using it. Rivera doesn't even like Metallica.

There's nothing wrong with Yankee fans enjoying their traditions in their own realm. But there is an entire baseball world outside the Bronx, and not all of the majors revolves around the Yankees. The Mets are not little brothers to the Yankees. Their roots are in National League baseball. Both sides have taken players and coaches from the other side. And Tradition Field has nothing to do with Legends Field. It's in a town called Tradition.

No one is trying to take away anything from Rivera. But the song is only attached to him if you're a Yankees fan. And there are much more important issues to be concerned about with both teams.

I would ask any one of the Yankees fan geniuses rattling off the "fact" that Mariano Rivera is the greatest reliever ever to provide a brief fact-based rationale as to why this is so obvious. Since I doubt any of you know of any other closers in history besides Gossage and Righetti, I will give you 4 that many would argue give Mo quite a competition for that title to use as a point of comparison: Rollie Fingers, Bruce Sutter, Dennis Eckersley, and Hoyt Wilhelm. This should be easy - when you state things as fact you clearly have the support at your side, so let's hear it.

Understandably, if Billy Wagner has been entering the game with Enter Sandman, he should be allowed to keep it. It is his right, he obviously likes the song, or else he would have changed it a long time ago. This is really a silly argument.

Besides, I doubt that many people would mistake Wagner for the great Mariano.

Oh and read today's Daily News...Rivera started using this song in 1999 after Yankees executives saw the frenzy Padres fans were whipped into when Hoffman came out. So who is stealing from who?

hey dave 27, this argument is not about Mo's status as a premier closer. Your above post does not even talk about Wagner, you ramble about other closers in past generations. That's not the issue here. Why do you even care to compare Mariano to others???

Shouldn't you start compiling a spreadsheet now that you have found "your great closer" in Wagner? I think you're doing the rattling off.

Rivera is great. But there's no doubt Wagner is one of the game's best as well.

Memo to Met fan Mike Thompson: As you have just made yourself sound clueless and racist, it is obvious that Mariano has put together more sentences than Carlos Beltran has put together any hits.

It is also apparent that Mariano Rivera has more class in his little pinky than your entire Mets team.

oh, and I'll take my antique staff over yours any day. Let's see, Pedro 34, Trachsel 35, Tom Glavine 40, Wagner 34, Darren Oliver 35. Yep, that's what I call looking "Marlins spring chicken fresh" to me.

As a Yankee fan I think it's funny the Mets front office wouldn't try and have some originality.
But the they just seem to imitate everything the yankees do except win! As far as Mariano goes
No one can argue the fact that he is the best closer in the history of the game.Is Looper still closing for the Mets?

Hetfield is not a Met fan, I read a comment earlier stating he was. June 24th last season, Hetfield was at a Yankee/Met game in the Bronx and had this to say.

When asked who he would be rooting for on Friday, Hetfield said his allegiances were with the Bombers.

"I'll root for my buddy, Randy," he said. "And my new buddy, Mo."

Source: http://www.allmetallica.com/news.php?id=280

Q.E.D.

Yankee Woman - every Yankees fan keeps mentioning Rivera is the best ever - I just want to see the facts. Like I said, I assume you all have looked into this, done your homework, and know what you are taking about.

As usual though, Yankees fans think Yankees history IS baseball history, and it's why so many of you are ignorant and sad.

oh dave, poor dave27, i pity you.

You really must lead a miserable life.

We are not ignorant nor sad, quite the contrary, we are all smart and happy. That's the way when it is when you are a Yankee fan; it's attached to you.

You should try it sometime. It'll make you feel better.

wagner should get a life and pick another song. cant dude be original. he should pick can't drive 55.

sure, while we're at it, why don't we give the song to looper, tom gordon, foulke, brad lidge, wouldn't want them to feel left out.

I'd have to say my personal favorite Rivera moment was when he lost Game 7 to the Arizona Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series. 5 years later, Steinbrenner has wasted nearly a billion dollars trying to buy another ring.

The Metss are not imitating the Yankees, and the Yankees don't own the song. Some Yankee fans need to see outside their own world and realize the world doesn't revolve around their team. I don't see how Wagner is copying anything when he used the song first. And what does it really matter? If you're a Yankee fan, enjoy the song and the tradition yourself in your own ballpark. The rest of the world doesn't have to conform just because you want them to. There are other teams with other fans who don't worship Mariano Rivera - only Yankee fans do. So stop making like you have ownership of the song when it wasn't even used by the Yankees to begin with. Not everyone in the world cares about your traditions. If they are important to you, enjoy them in your own element. You have no right to tell other teams how to conduct themselves. The world doesn't revolve around Yankee Stadium.

I full respect Rivera and what the song means to Yankee fans. But that doesn't mean the song doesn't have meaning elsewhere. Realize that not everyone is a Yankees fan and other people have other traditions. Another pitcher using the same song won't take away any of the emotion you feel when Rivera takes the hill.

Yankee Woman, why so hostile? Again, I'm just asking Yankees fans making claims based on history to show off their knowledge on the subject. Who asked you to keep coming at me? Maybe you should encourage some of your bretheren to show us all they know their stuff.

I am glad you are happy as a Yankees fan. Unfortunately I suspect if you really were you would not be on a blog about a song. Trust me we Mets fans are quite happy as well - this whole thing is quite humorous.

yo dave you can't be too happy now, considering your great closer billy wagner just gave up a homerun. don't worry, it had to happen sometime. welcome to new yor