O'Reilly on birth control, Viagra: The Swamp
 
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Posted July 18, 2008 10:38 AM
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by James Oliphant

Here's Bill O'Reilly addressing the Planned Parenthood McCain attack ad that we posted earlier in the week, the one in which McCain awkwardly pauses after being asked why some health insurance plans cover erectile dysfunction drugs but not birth control.

O'Reilly doesn't want to pay for your birth control either. Nor does he want to buy you dinner first.

The Nation's Katha Pollitt gives her take on the John McCain birth control or Viagra issue in a new column, although she says she realizes the conversation is "not as world-shaking as the caricature of the Obamas on the cover of The New Yorker, which has the high-end media in a total tizzy. It's probably not even as important as the raunchy joke Bernie Mac told at an Obama fundraiser last week, which was bumped from the tizzy list by the New Yorker story."

CNN's Jeanne Moos has her own video here, comparing McCain's hand-over-the-mouth moment to "Thing" from the Adams Family.


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I never thought in a million years i would ever agree with this guy on anything. His point on this issue makes complete sense!


Hallelujah, Scot!
O'Reilly is right, as he is on many things. If Scot and others would open their minds, not be lead astray by lying Loony Left websites, you might find you agree with O'Reilly more than you think.

And, again, a Tribune scam reporter, tries to knock O'Reilly. What James Oliphant doesn't understand is that most Americans do not agree with Planned Parenthood.


Bill is right. Confusing choices and medical conditions does not make sense. As a taxpayer, I am tired of being expected to pay for anyone's CHOICES. Each of us must accept ownership for our own lives, and the decisions that mold them.


Well John, not sure what you mean about "Most Americans do not agree with planned parenthood" but in this instance i do not. As far as O'reily is concerned, like I said so far, this is the only time I have to agree with him. Most other opinions of his I find offensive. But glad you and I finally agree on something. See, Left Loonies and Right Wingers can get along!


Welcome to the dark side, Scot. Seriously, why should the government or insurance companies be required to pay money to provide ANYONE with viagra or birth control? People need to take responsibility for themselves and pay money for prescriptions that aren't medically necessary. And the people saying that poor women can't afford birth control and don't want to not have sex should consult the price of a condom at their local drug store. It's about $2. I think the lucky guy can scrape that together.


Jeff, like I said I agree with O'Reily on this matter. And, scary as it is, I agree with you, on the viagra and condom issue! Wow, being on the dark side for a change is invigurating!


I know you guys have actual jobs but it's 11AM on a Friday and there's a good conversation going on between the posters on this topic and nothing has been updated since 10:30 (don't give me this east coast time stuff, this is the CHICAGO Tribune).

How do you seriously expect people to use this blog and have good debate (and get your pageviews up) if you continue to wait hours between posting responses? Especially when the people like me, Scot, and John D have NEVER posted anything that could be considered offensive?


Well Jeff, thanks for including me in your post although I must admit I have mouthed off quite a bit and apologize for my short temper!


Let's take Oreilly's logic to it's natural conclusion: We should end insurance coverage for birth immediately. If you choose to have a child, pay for all the hospital costs yourself. Pay the $8000 yourself if you make that choice. Pay for all the healthcare costs for your child yourself until they are 18 without help of insurance. You made the choice, you pay for it.


J. Swift,
You can't use common sense and logic when you are talking to the mouthbreathers who hang on O'Reily's every word.


J Swift and Jackson sure brought this debate back into the Loony Left dumper.

Yes, you could say having children is a choice, but then that is what people do. I fact, it is what tigers, monkeys, bees, birds, snakes, frogs, sharks, dolphins, dogs, cats, do: they breed.

Now one can choose how many children to have and for most folks it's based on what they can afford and their own comfort level.

Also, insurance has nothing or llittle to do with the government. If the insurance company chooses to not fund birth control, that is their right. Course, they also could choose not to cover children, but that would take away business.

As noted, if one is interested in birth control, there are plenty of choices at the neighborhood store. There also is the choice of when and when not to have sex. It's all quite simple, really. But it's not the taxpayer's job to fund those choices.


Insurance companies out there DO pay for this, nearly 100% (all but five or seven dollars) for the ones I've associated with. Some may be more.

So, what is PP's deal, I'm not getting it I guess? Woman who are covered watch this and say "WHAAAAT? Is it the poor uninsured they are trying to rile up to angrily vote OB in?

Are they suggesting we should look to Obama for some MANDATED insurance for EVERYONE (not just children>foolish move on this one) ?

Aren't condoms pretty darn cheep....and free in some schools to boot? I don't get the angle. Makes no sense to me. Anyone?


O'Reilly makes a good point, no I don't always agree with him

The point of the commercial misses the point - it is a PRIVATE health plan they are talking about. It is not PP's decision, nor the federal gov'ts decision to dictate which drugs are covered under a PRIVATE health plan.

If I was running the healthplan, I know as an employeer, I would not be covering woody pillls in my plan.

What Obama ought to be looking at about PP is this:

http://hvcljournal.typepad.com/lifenet/2008/06/students-for-life-of-america-sfla-vs-planned-parenthood.html

Look at this link about Planned Parenthood, if I was Obama, I would be running from this organization.


Teresa,
Not all insurance plans pay benefits for birth control. In your experience they did. Many employees have plans that do not cover it.


This is totally BillO BS. Nice of so many of you GUYS to agree with that moron.

Does your insurance (assuming you have it) pay for your blood pressure medicine? That's a normal function. Does insurance pay for your Prozac? For your arthritis medicine? If your body does something, and you intervene to manage it, you are doing the same thing as a woman taking birth control.

I got no problem with old guys taking Viagra, I'd even agree with insurance companies subsidizing it. But how is that not the same thing as a woman managing her fertility?

Of course, McSame is against any sort of birth control. Just look at his record. And the Bush administration is out there laying the groundwork to take Birth Control out of women's hands.


McCain already stated that he wasn't going tell insurance companies WHAT they have to cover.

Why would we want govt dictating our health care?


So now the swamp is quoting o'reilly the entertainer. This paper used to be one of our nations best. It is now a living-breathing sponsor of the RNC. Erectile dysfunction is a real medical condition. Birth control helps regulate a women menstrual cycle among other things. These issues are not left or right.
If half of you republisheep did any research before regurgitating o'rielly's uninformed comments the world would be a better place.


Teresa is absolutely correct. Why would anyone want guaranteed healthcare? Health insurance is optional, not guaranteed. If you don't want to pay for it, then why should you? If you want it but can't afford it, then get another job or move to France. That or invest in pharmaceutical companies with lobbying power to offset the cost. Or go to med school and learn how to treat your own brain tumor and stop expecting the government to have your back because you are a socialist sissy.


Birth control pills and Viagra are both used to treat medical conditions. One form of Viagra treats erectile dysfunction (ED) while another is used to improve the ability to exercise in people with pulmonary arterial hypertension. Birth control pills are not just used to prevent pregnancy. Oral contraceptives are also prescribed for Polycystic Ovary Syndrome, endometriosis, ovarian cysts, heavy bleeding associated with uterine fibroids, severe menstrual cramps, irregular or absent menstrual periods, etc.


If PP didn't didn't get so politcal (making ads for a politcial race and particular candidate) we wouldn't be discussing the issue.

Actually, I DID hear that story on Oreilly show. I don't recall it being mentioned that it was a religious group who call PP about race issue. I'm not a real big fan of his show really, only recently started catching it....he doesn't hit as hard as he talks, but maybe some have forced him to mellow some.


Mr. LeMonier writes: As a taxpayer, I am tired of being expected to pay for anyone's CHOICES.

My wife and I have no children. We don't gripe about paying for the education of yours, your CHOICES, as it were.

There, and in MANY similar areas including billions spent on an unnecessary war in Iraq I do not support but pay for, such an argument by Mr. O'Reilly and his erectily dysfunctional supporters falls to pieces.



RIGHT ON KAREN!!! I have endometriosis... never heard of it? GO LOOK IT UP! SO many women in the world have this disease! Don't believe me... go to weareendo.org... and check it out!! Me having endometriosis caused me to start my period when I was 11... by the time I was 12 years old... I didn't have my period once a month for 5 to 7 days like most girls... I NEVER STOPPED! I bleed for 3 months straight... and finally I went to the Dr... and I was put on birth control pills at the age of 12... and guess what... it regulated my period! I have been on them since... not for "BIRTH CONTROL"... but so I won't bleed EVERY FREAKING day of my life!! Looks like to me Mr. O'Reilly needs to do a little more research before he blurts out that Birth Control isn't used for medical reasons!


Are you people CRAZY???? This man is VERY uneducated!!! Birth Control IS USED FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS!!! I have ENDOMETRIOSIS along with SO many women in this WORLD!!! I have never felt anything so PAINFUL and stressful as having this disease! IT IS NOT CUREABLE at this point!!!! BIRTH CONTROL helps people like us that struggle with this disease EVERYDAY! It is ONE of the FEW treatments that people with endo can do!! So while Mr. O'Reilly goes and makes such uneducated statements, i suggest that anyone who agrees with this man..LOOK UP ENDOMETRIOSIS. I am so furious at his comments and whoever else that tries to say that birth control isnt used for a medical condition!!! How ignorant! B.C is sometimes ALL a woman with endometriosis HAS to help her! Dont listen to this man, he is CLEARLY very badly educated!!!


right on Ashley and Sarah! I also am taking b.c pills for endometriosis and if it werent for them i would be in extreme pain right now....i never thought i would take bc pills, but things change, i never thought i would get endometriosis either.....bc pills are just my pain medication....For Bill O'Reilly: dont judge others until you are in their shoes..., i'm not trying to be mean, and you obviously didnt know about endometriosis, so just get educated, tell others about it spread the word about this disease that is more prevalent than Breast Cancer


Wow...That is the most ignorant comment I have EVER heard. Of course a man would consider -not being able to get a hard on- more of a medical condition then the millions of women that suffer from the debilitating disease, endometriosis. That is TERRIBLE!!!


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