Obama backers doing the wincing

Sour news for you John. The assumption of Obama's being president is pre-mature. As Al Gore can tell you- don't count your electorial votes before they're cast!

Here's a reality check from someone who doesn't write columns or blab endlessly on political TV shows: I am a 50-year-old suburban white man from a modest Chicago suburb with a family. I'm not drinking any koolaid, and I'm not naive about life or about politics. I support Barack Obama and think he will make a fine president, much, much better than Bush. I also think Hillary Clinton would have made a good president, and I think even John McCain would be an improvement over Bush. So Kass and many others can say whatever they want about Obama. I'm voting for him, and there are millions like me.

Thank you, Swamp, for this all too rare, refreshing change from the usual touchy-feely worshiping puff piece!
In his usual gritty, entertaining way Kass gives us a clear-eyed view of Obama the ultimate Chicago Machine hack.

it's fascinating how you can in the same page discuss direct evidence that obama supporters are NOT blind followers of some messiah, as they hold their candidate accountable for his actions, and also discuss how they ARE blind followers of some messiah.

i suppose it hasn't ever occurred to you that the caricature of obama supporters as mindless drones was never true? occam's razor would like to have a word with your analysis.

Obama backer winching- Don't blame them thEY have lot of momey running on a FLIP FLOP-

What?

Someone please tell Grandblvd03 and other Obama supporters, Barack is NOT running against Bush. Stop comparing the candidates to Bush. Just because you don't like Bush doesn't mean you need to throw reason out the window and vote Dem, just because it "Isn't Bush". That is some of the dumbest logic I have ever heard.

Shouldn't Rev. Jackson have to resign from Rainbow Push? Those words were very harsh, even though he apologized, like many other media figures, who lost their jobs, status, etc. When Rev. Jackson rescued hostages a few years ago, he was wonderful, but this stunt...no way, he needs to resign or be replaced.

As a liberal who will be voting for Obama in the fall, I already know he's no liberal. But my choices are Obama or a continuation of the ruinous policies of the current administration under John McCain. So I'm voting for Obama.

Chicago politician Obama as reformer/messiah reminds me of something the New York Times once asked: "Can you draw sweet water from a foul well?"

As a liberal democrat, I like my politicians progressively far left of center. It really does pain me to witness Senator Obama's lurch toward the center and beyond. While I know one most play the political game to get elected and stay elected, it is still quite disconcerting to see how quickly Senator Obama has evolved into Bush-lite on so many issues so near and dear to democrats. He is reaching a point in his centrist political ideology where his vice presidential pick will have to be a far left leaning democrat for balance on the ticket. I don't suppose most of us realized how crafty the Obama camp was in using "change" as their main message. We assumed that meant change from ineffective, stale republican policies. Now we know it meant change from progressive liberal ideology promised in the primary race to centrist at best, conservative at worst, ideology in the presidential race. Can we expect a shift back to the left when elected president? I dunno but can only hope.

I have a dream, a fantasy if you will, that the delegates will come to their senses and actually make the correct choice in August.

So my last post didn't make it! Obama has "NOT" been elected president and I resent the reference that he will be inaugrated!

Obama has "NOT" been elected president and I resent the reference that he will be inaugrated!

Posted by: henry | July 14, 2008 1:16 PM

How do you feel about "Mission Accomplished"?

How do you feel about "Mission Accomplished"?

Posted by: bill r. | July 14, 2008 2:27 PM

Probably the same way you feel about your candidate morphing into a conservative democrat or a progressive republican, who has changed his positon on just about every significant issue in the last 3 months...

The liberal McCain=Bush is about as despicable as the conservative Obama=Jesse. Why don't both myopic sides use their brains and look at both candidates without biased glasses? Personally, I like both candidates. They differ, but both seem to want to rule based upon their belief in what is best for America, not what the lobbies are going to pay them to do.

Barack is a lot of things--President of the Harvard Law Review, community organizer, Senior Lecturer in Law at the University of Chicago, inspired speaker--but hack Chicago machine politician is not one of them, as any idiot who paid the slightest attention to Chicago politics in the past 10 years would know.
Barack was opposed by the Machine candidates in the last 2 elections: B obby Rush in his Congressional race, and Dan Hynes in the Senate race.
He was always viewed by suspicion by the Machine as too independent, too honest, too "good government" and too untouchable to be part of the Machine. And they were right.
As for the good Rev. Jesse--well, he's played ball with a lot of folk over the years to get what he wanted. It's a hoot hearing him accuse Barak of "talking down to black folk". "Rev." Jesse should know better than most that the pulpit is built the way it is for "talking down" and the person occupying it, even as a guest, is supposed to have some moral vantage to impart.
Even more so if it's the "bully pulpit". Jesse represents the old confrontational politics which, we hope, is on the way out.

"Barack is a lot of things... but hack Chicago machine politician is not one of them"
Posted by: ornery | July 14, 2008 3:25 PM
It is common public knowledge that Barack Obama supported Todd Stroger, Richard Daley and Dorothy Tillman. Also that his mentor in the Illinois Senate was the fragrant Emil Jones. That should be enough to qualify him as a corrupt-as-usual Chicago Machine hack.
Want more? Try this:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/

Heartburn.....Personally I don't care if he is left, right ,or center. If he is willing to end the war and he doesn't represent the same failed ideas and policies as Bush, he has my vote. As far as "flip flopping" (I get so tired of the words), McBush has NO ground to stand on either.

Not long a go, a regional paper wrote about the high likihood that Obama would take fellow Illinoians with him to Washington should he win the election. If you're willing to look past Obama's obvious hard-left leanings, try wrapping your mind around this; Imagine the dirtyist scumbag Illinois politicians you can think of suddenly finding themselves in a position of national power.

When I say dirty scumbags, I'm speaking of most Illinois politicians. We'll have the Daly political machine doing dirty deeds nationally. We'll have Rod "crazyman" Blagojevich heading up some major department or agency.

Yeah, can't wait for that!

Sorry, MJ, but Barack's appeal is very deep and very wide--nationwide, in fact.

Lots of folk have voted for Daley and Co. in years past, partly because there is no Repuglican Party in Chicago and even if there were it would be as corrupt as Gov. George Ryan, now in the federal pen.
Barack made inspired end runs around both the Machine in his Senate race, and around the Clinton Machine to secure the nomination.
Ordinary politician, he ain't.
BTW, which Repuglicans did you vote for in past years?

I've supported Obama since he first ran for US Senate and was enthusiastic in support of his run in the primaries. But Kass has a point - if he's willing to abandon the positions he's taken on so many issues that got him the nomination (his legalistic, Clintonian parsing of "study my previous statements more closely" aside), what else will he give up in his lurch to the "center"? Patrick Fitzgerald? Change I can believe in? I've moved to "undecided".

And don't tell me about what evil things John McCain would do to the Supreme Court. Whoever wins the presidency, the Democrats will most likely still control Congress; and if they had any spine at all (and I don't think they do), they wouldn't let a President McCain get away with appointing another Scalia or Alito to the court.

What?
Posted by: buzbeech | July 14, 2008 10:43 AM

Exactly buzzy, you just read a typical, pointless, John Kass, right-wing gibberish-laden talking "point."

What? Indeed.

More John Kass in the swamp, please.

The French Revolution?
Obama's Inauguration?
A "Barakian Hangover"?
HUH???

I guess I'm stupid...I don't understand a word you wrote. Can someone please translate this from a 4th grade fiction assignment into a coherent newspaper report? Thanks!