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Reading the comments from the old testament conservative religionists above I am struck by what a huge gap there is between what Jesus taught and what passes for Christianity today and it is the so-called Christians who are most opposed to anyone who calls for tolerance, peace, love for their enemies or neighbors and compassion for the poor and oppressed. George Bush (either one) or any of the conservative leaders who all talk of their great religious credits wouldn't know a Christian act if it actually happened to him/them. He is an intolerant, puritanical bigot and a kick-ass warmonger, just like the seeming rest of the right wing religionists. Praise Jesus - that is all they seem to think they need to say or do to be a Christian. But even the devils believe and tremble, but it doesn't make them Christians. The people who quietly go every day and LIVE a life of kindness, tolerance, peacemaking and charity are the real Christians who never get any credit or notice.. Sad. And Mike has the gall to talk about what the great USofA if doing "for" the poor people of the world. 150,000 civilians dead in Iraq and eye witness accounts of US GIs gunning down little children "For 9/11" even though Iraq had nothing to do with that (but Bush's best friends - Saudi Arabia provided most of the hijackers. That is one of the most repressive dictatorships, both religious and civil, in the world, and they have oil. Ask yourself why Bush doesn't invade them to "free" the people and promote democracy. China has more religious freedom than Arabia does. Think about it.) Wake up and start reading and quit believing everything Bush and his rich cohorts just tell you. He's a proven liar. The problem is what the US is doing "to" so many people around the world. We have been installing and supporting right wing brutal dictatorships for decades who will allow US corporations to flourish at the expense of their own peope. Do you think people around the world who were polled and said the US was the greatest danger to world peace are just saying that because they are jealous that you live in a country that spends billions and trillions on military and pre-emptive invasions of other countries who are no threat in any possible way to the US, a country that has 1% of the population that owns 60% of the wealth, that has the highest infant mortality rate in the developed world, 46 million working poor who have no health care (disease is the greatest terrorist threat there is. Millions are killed by cancer, heart disease etc. compared to 3000 killed in 2001 by human terrorists. Yet the conservatives don't care about those millions who die without adequate health care. Where's the Christianity here?). The US also ranks 52nd for freedom of the press. I could go on, but the point is the only thing the US is first in in the whole world is military - bombs, land mines etc. and people in prison (2nd). This is not what Jesus taught! The Bush Bunch and conservative policies have created more hatred and enemies toward the US than if the US would just mind its own business or spend all the money it does on bullying militarism on ending poverty and suffering in the world and end its support for despots. The US is wayyyyyyyyyyy down the list in per capita giving in REAL foreign aid, once you take all the land mines and bullets out of the "gifts" that give taxpayer support to the ruling elite's robber baron friends like Haliburton and the weapons manufacturers. You've got the internet start educating yourself about what your government and country is really doing to other people. You wouldn't like it if some other country came into the US and told you how the live and used military force and economic coersion would you? Of course not. Here's a thought for all you right wing, kick-ass, all for war and against policies to help the poor and socially ostracized - IF YOU OR BUSH WERE ARRESTED FOR BEING A CHRISTIAN AND PUT ON TRIAL, WOULD THERE BE ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO CONVICT YOU? Read just the gospels and only Jesus' words - not what your preachers say, but what Jesus himself said (there is a BIG difference) and then answer this question. PS Mike, the ACLU only fights for the Bill of Rights - what about those rights do you not believe in or want to defend?

If the US is a free country - and that is a debatable question (are you free to travel to any country you want to? NO. that is not freedom, for instance) then everyone in the country, including gay people and other people you don't like should have equal rights under the law. Right? Then they should be able to marry anyone they want to and enjoy the same rights as anyone else. Right! If not you have a country like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Somali or any number of these repressive states where prayer in schools is mandatory, religion is the state, homosexuals are beheaded, women who are raped are executed (its their fault after all) and men run everything. Sounds like an American right-wing, evangelical, neo-conservative dream. Right? Right! So move there. Its about time that the US started being what it has always proclaimed it was, but has never come too close to being, except for the rich and the powerful. Liberty and justice for ALL. Jay hit it all right on the head. Impeach Bush and Cheney. No one has ever deserved it more. It is interesting that for the party that talks the most about religion and character is the party that has produced the most corrupt administrations in my lifetime - Nixon, Reagan, old Bush and little Bush. Just shows you can't believe what the politicians say - look at what they really do.

Lets see, I remember reading about Adam and Eve, but
I don't seem to recall it being "Adam & Steve."

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At least Bush is against abortion, gay marrige, and he thinks we should keep our guns. I'm not saying that he has done everyting right. I definitely don't think he has done enough on illegal immigration, but the Democrats haven't either. Why is it that the Republicans never complain . . but the Democrats always find something to complain about? If a Democrat wins the election this time, and as a person who is honored to live in this country, I will not bash and bash this person for 4 years. If the majority elects them, then the rest of us should shut up for 4 years and let this person do their job to the best of their ability. Then, 4 years later, if you are not happy, then GO VOTE! And if socialized medicine gets approved, guess who will pay for it? All of us. Yes.... all of us who work will pay for everyone's healthcare.
Go Figure!

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