Spin Cycle

David Kilmnick has been two-faced for years. He formed a Log Cabin Republicans chapter and now that the Dems are in power, he wants to be a Democrat. He's "nice" to Republicans and in bed with Democrats? Hmmm, sounds like he has no loyalty to anyone but himself!

If you want to talk about suprise sources, why not discuss Vivian Viloria Fishers deep, and I mean real deep sources.

Suprise resource? Such as Tritec Development? Which forked over a very nice donation to Ms Fisher. Did Fisher forget Tritec is a non-union developer that basically has and will continue to build on every square inch of available land on Long Island. Is this indicative of a true democrat that is pro labor and does not want over development on Long Island? No, Vivian is doing what she does best, being a politician.

Doesnt suprise me, Ms. Fisher has great BBQ's and people with deep pockets that attend it

I thought we were talking about David Kilmnick, a contributor, not an elected official such as Viloria Fisher. Kilmnick is an outsider trying to get on the inside by pretending to be loyal to both political parties and hoping nobody notices his conflicting allegiances. Viloria Fisher is a proud Democrat. If you don't think Kilmnick's donation is the height of hypocrisy, then ask yourself: do political parties mean ANYTHING anymore?

Unfortunately the voting public is very fickle and driven by the last media piece read or seen, therefore there is no true political party allegiance let alone commitment. As far as Senator Flanagan accepting donations from Dave, well obviously the Senator did the right thing for David, which is fine, At least the Senator is true to his beliefs and not necessarily the political party he is affiliated to. As far as Legislator Fisher she may be a proud democrat, as she see’s it, however her convictions are nothing more then to her own righteous elitist point of view, please take a look at the “donations” she received and you will see. I assure you. Just follow the link to her proud democrat commitment, or shall I say money?
http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/boe/cf/r/SchedulesDetail.aspx

I just found out that one of Kilmnick's board members at Long Island Gay and Lesbian Youth, Elena Perez, also gave money ($500) to Flanagan. And Kilmnick's Democratic political group is having a fundraiser at the LIGALY offices in September! Since when can not-for-profit agencies have political fundraising events?

Flanagan is great guy, but Kilmnick's hypocracy is off the charts. How can you run a gay dems group AND dole out bucks to the GOP? Doesn't add up.

You've got to be kidding me with this BS blog. Its quite obvious that Flanagan got Kilmnick money for his agency - as someone who is involved in politics, this is nothing new. By the way, have you checked out Kilmnick's other donations - $500 to Tim Bishop and $500 to Tom DiNapoli, both Democrats. And the last time I checked, we were still living in America, where people can do what they want with their money. This "blog" really smells like a personal vendetta of whoever posted the first message - its clearly obvious.

What's more surprising is the Suffolk County Democrat Chair Rich Schaeffer endorsing Sen. Owen Johnson - that is the real hypocrisy. Hello - there is a Democrat running in that district and Owen Johnson is one of the most conservative Senators around. Give it up already!

I agree with what David Kilmnick did as a private citizen. He gave a political contribution.. so what?... What Maria should be upset about is that Suffolk County Democratic Party Chair Richard Schaeffer came on NEWS12 and told people to vote for HOMOPHOBIC Senator Owen Johnson who in the past threw members of P-FLAG out of his office..and who (like Hillary Clinton), opposes same sex marriage. Of course Maria keeps her BIG mouth shut about that.ahhhhmazing!!!!!but not surprising....

David Kilmnick is a ....(edited) hypocrite and fortunately most of us in the GLBT community know it. Now most of the leaders in the Democratic Party know it too. Oh, and if Johnson is such a homophobe, why did he vote for the Sexual Orientation Non-Discrimination Act and the Hate Crimes Bill that protects gays? He's no more homophobic than Flanagan, who I just found out OPPOSES gay marriage! (edited)....

The M.O. of Kilmnick is to say one thing to the cameras and do something else when he thinks no one is looking, and you compare THAT to Schaffer? LOL, OH PLUUUULLLEEEZZEEE, MARY! Kilmnick told Newsday "I feel like I'm living in a red state" (insert crybaby 'waaaaa!!!!' here). And then he got caught giving $1000.00 to a Repiglican Senator (whoops!). Comparing that hypocrisy to Schaffer's political brilliance is an insult to anyone with a brain -- try to get one before posting again.

It's too bad that Kilmnick always resorts to attacking others when he is the wrong-doer. He'll never say he's sorry for making a mistake. He's been doing the same thing for years -- he is a master of spinning things around hoping to change the subject. We know the truth!

The personal attacks are not really constructive, folks. Although I've always thought that wearing a toupee is an indication that the wearer has self-esteem issues, I think it's a leap to say that Kilmnick's $1000.00 donation to Brooke Ellison's opponent has anything to do with that. What I'd like to know is much money does Kilmnick make off his gay youth group that he's able to make thousands of dollars of "personal" donations to politicos?

The bottom line is this, David, as a private citizen, can donate to whom ever he wants to. It amazes me how other so called "leaders of the community" can host people like Islip Town Clerk Joan Johnson in their home then jeer at someone else. Better yet, be on the outlook for the "army of one" sore looser that's responsible for most of these hideous attacks on David. By the content of the posts and personal assaults and the posting screen name you'd think the person was in high school. We see right thru you dear, you and the little circle of "freinds" that up until recently disliked you as much as you dislike David. You know what, it doesn't matter. David is doing wonderful and beneficial things for the Long Island GLBT Community and for GLBT Youth as well. Isn't that what really matters?

Oh and by the way,calling Schaffer's action of endorsing Republican Owen Johnson on News12 "political brillance", is ridiculous, but then again, if you ass kiss and play your cards right,possibly you could get you a job with the county... who knows, maybe you work there already. I'm sure Johnson's democratic opponet doesn't feel Schaffer's comments were, as you say "brilliant".

Who is running this blog? Things have been removed form the bolg that are far less offensive than some of the crap that's on here now! What kind of censorship is going on here?

I hope the administrator responds.

Oh and by the way, I agree with the previous post -- Shame on Schaeffer! How could you be so disloyal to your own party and endorse one of the worst State Senators Owen Johnson and ignore your own party candidate. Hardly Brilliant as a previous poster said.

I thought this blog was about the president of the gay dems of ligaly donating $1000 to an anti gay marriage conservative republican after expressing such disgust at the state supreme court's decision?

"David is doing wonderful and beneficial things for the Long Island GLBT Community and for GLBT Youth as well."

BULl(edited)! David is in this game for himself (and Rob, of course). His ego and self-promotion get in the way at every turn. Would love to see a responsible administrator grab hold of LIGALY and make some changes.

It just amazes me the childishness and jealousy that a few certain people have for all the good work that David is doing and has done. The real problem is that David has accomplished what they only hoped to. This kills, (in particular), "the army of one" that we need to keep an outlook for, to the point that he has to make up fake screen names to post on here...

beware of the wig man! he has many screennames!

TIME-LINE David Kilmnick....Employed Long Island Crisis Center/Pride for Youth.TERMINATED Long Island Crisis Center/Pride For Youth.Forms with CO-FOUNDER MARIA MEZZATESTA,LIGALY,pushes out CO-FOUNDER MARIA MEZZATESTA TO BOARD for more money to self.As executive director Aquires building in Bayshore.Hires staff of 5 SALARIED employee's.Gets involved sexually with one male employee.Pushes 2 employee's out for furtherment of personal involvment of designated employee social climber.

As a former volunter/employee of LIGALY I do have to say I was uncomfortable with the last one of the BLOGS about the Unprofessional behavior at the Center and how uncomfortable I felt with the Behavior of MR.Kilmnick and one of the male staff.It was quite obvious that not one in this office would be promoted other than his MUSE.The bad thing was that there really was no HUMAN RESOURCES like other companies have to protect us.No I am not a disgruntled employed that was terminated I left because of the unprofessional behavior of this staff.

Finally, perhaps someone can shed light on my question -- how much money does Kilmnick make at LIGALY? If you have "Been There" perhaps you know? Normally I would not care about this, but he is financing a campaign to keep Republican control of the State Senate, so now it matters to me. Thanks!

"but he is financing a campaign to keep Republican control of the State Senate"

$1000 is financing a whole campaign? If it is, then that person is in for some big trouble come election day. If you want to know what David makes for his salary that he works for, I'm sure you can find out on your own, so do some digging. Although I would encourage you to post what you do and how much money you make and how you spend your own personal money as well.

I really want to stay on the original topic of the donation, but I have to comment on some of the attacks that have taken place here and encourage Newsday moderators to take a look at this as well - this feels like MySpace instead of a respected media outlet.

This board has gotten really ridiculous. I mean get real. Take a look at the corporations and unions that are financing campaigns - one person's donation is nothing in comparison - not even close.

I agree with John who posted before the circus on here started again. It is quite clear, actually crystal clear, that there are a "few" people who are highly jealous with David's success and wish it was them instead. This is there attempt to be in Newsday - so jealous that David's name appears all the time (by the way that's because he actually does something). In fact, these people are worse than the known homophobes, as they attempt to be for the community and instead are working against the community (they don't even have success at that). They have not presented any facts whatsoever, other than the $1,000 donation.

And the personal attacks are just very sad - it really is. When someone is attacking an individual based on their appearance that is because they have nothing else to go from - they do this to satisfy the low self-esteem of the writers, and only temporarily, because after the post they can go back and see what they have accomplished themselves, which leads them back into their low self-esteem position.

As a contract manager and funder for nonprofits, this reminds me of similar attacks on other organizations that have become "big" players. LIGALY is one of the fastest growing nonprofits on Long Island, and that has been with the hard work of David building relationships with many. I have to admit that there are those who don't like him because of his aggressive and unapologetic style, but they respect him.

He has built these relationships very skillfully especially with many people that I work with that wouldn't even blink an eye or open an ear to the plight of the homosexual community. David Kilmnick has gotten their ears and has moved the concerns for this community to the priority list - congratulations, big time are in order to him and his staff. People will always leave jobs and/or be fired for a multitude of reasons, so when complaints of "alleged" employees of LIGALY appear on this board, they need to be taken with a grain of salt. LIGALY is bound by all the same labor laws as every other employer. It is quite clear, actually crystal clear, that sour grapes are the reason for the posts.

David is getting as much play as Hillary Clinton and other politicians here - that says alot about him, and that is success. With all these personal and character attacks, he certainly should run for office. I think he would make a great addition to our legislature.

"With all these personal and character attacks, he certainly should run for office."

He tried...that failed, thank god. And yeah, having a sexual relationship with your #2 staf member is unethical and a conflict of interest. LIGALY is not a private corporation; it is a non-profit funded with MY TAX DOLLARS. It is not anyone's personal little kingdom. Where the heck is this organization's Board of Directors in all this? LIGALY has become David and Rob's personal vehicle for getting ahead and that is sickening.

It's a matter of public record that David's salary for LIGALY's fiscal year that ended June 30, 2005 was $73,942. Their 2006 financial reports have not been made public on the internet yet, but you can ask for a copy of it from them directly and they have to provide it. You can also contact the State Attorney General's office for a copy.

"He tried...that failed, thank god."

David never ran for office. He was considered by our party, but ultimately he did not want to run - he was being pushed it into it by other electeds. If he really wanted to run, he could get the nomination hands down, especially for County Legislature. He has the power to raise money and win votes - he's a proven success. Now for the real facts though: Tom Hroncich ran for office and lost bad, real bad. In fact, Tom Hronchich sought the endorsement of the FBI recognized hate group, Sachem Quality of Life. Now that's a winner for you - he has been trying to get at David for years and we all know better here in the party. Shame he's trying out a public board to air his own personal vengence. Very Karl Rove like.

"And yeah, having a sexual relationship with your #2 staf member is unethical"
I'm not gay, but the way I read your post is that you are saying that when gay people have a relationship it is sexual? I would have to disagree with you. I see David's relationship and friends that I have that are gay and in relationships as equal to my marriage. Hmmm, was that written by Sen. Owen Johnson, the person that our Chairperson Schaeffer has endorsed?

"And yeah, having a sexual relationship with your #2 staf member is unethical"

Oh yea and I thought of one more thing here. What would you proud Democrats say about the late Maxine Postal (G-d rest her soul) and her Chief of Staff Elie Mystal. Were they having just a sexual relationship? Was that unethical? Maxine adored many people (and we adored here even more) but she always spoke highly about David. For those that criticize the right of gay people to be in love and have a relationship under any circumstance, just like any heterosexual person, are the biggest hypocrites and self-haters.

Signed - A Real Democrat who believes in Choice (and not only reproductive rights).

I'm not suprised that Tom looked for that group's support. And he didn't support Steve Israel who is the best Congressman who ever lived!

I AGREE WITH MARYANN er DONATELLE,WE SHOULD NOT PERSONALLY ATTACK DAVID.I ALSO AGREE WITH HER ABOUT DAVID RUNNING FOR POLITICAL OFFICE,HE IS SLEEZEY AND SLIMEY LIKE ALOT OF PEOPLE IN POLITICAL OFFICE.NOW FOR LIGALY HUMAN RESOURCE POLICY.DAVID MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT EVERY COMPLAINT WENT THROUGH HIM.MR. VITELLI WAS VERY CUTTHROAT AND PUSHED PEOPLE OUT.SO WE WERE ALL QUITE FRIGHTENED TO SAY A WORD TO DAVID.WE ALL KNEW WE HAD TO BE VERY NICE TO ROBERT BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON.I HAD SEEN QUITE A FEW GLBT COMMUNITY LEADERS AT THE CENTER WHO WERE DAVIDS SO CALLED FRIENDS.EVERY TIME THEY LEFT MR.KILMNICK WOULD VERBALLY RIP THEM APART.THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THIS ORGANIZATION WAS BASICALLY NON-EXISTANT.THEY RUBBER STAMPED EVERYTHING DAVID DID AND NEVER LOOKED AT IT AS LONG AS MONEY WAS COMING IN.SO PLEASE MS.DONNATELLE DONT TAKE ME WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.YOU OBVIOUSLY WERE NOT DOING YOUR JOB.

Hey Donkey Democrat,When you wanted David to run for office was he a Republican or a Democrat?

"For those that criticize the right of gay people to be in love and have a relationship under any circumstance, just like any heterosexual person, are the biggest hypocrites and self-haters."

That's crap. A conflict of interest is a conflict of interest, gay or straight. The LIGALY board should have stepped in and still should. Can't wait till Mr. Spitzer becomes Gov and begins holding non-profit boards accountable for turning a blind eye to games like these.

Iam so happy that LIGALY'S so called event raised a bit of money.So now it will pay David Kilmnick's salary which is more than what was quoted.And David can pay his Excessive Charge Account bills.

Charge Account Bills? Damn maybe that balloon will purchase a new wig and have LIPO-SUCTION.

Their benefit rasied $70K - not even enough to cover David's salary, much less Rob's.

How can our community move foward if we spend so much time on nonsence. There are such greater issues than David and/or who he slept with. I would like us to get away from bashing each other move toward a united front. Focus on the issues and what needs to be accomplished to make them a reality.

Stop with the Kumbayah crap. David is in it for David. Not gay kids. Not the community. Himself. Other players in our community do work together; not David. Never has, never will. That's why he's soooo loved on Long Island. LOL

GET REAL!!! "Other players in the community work together" What a load of crap!!! What planet are you on or do you need a directory of who hates who in our community? You know and I know it's all not against David.

Yeah, you're right, David is universally loved for his kind, generous, thoughtful, contemplative, team-oriented ways. Please.

Do you honestly think the pride for youth/ galfoli - no way out media gang is loved by all? I think NOT!!! Please is right!!!

Put it this way...David Kilmnick is no Andy Peters.

Thank G-d David Kilmnick is not like Andy Peters. They are in tow different leagues and so are their respective organizations. While Andy is a nice guy, David is the one that gets things done for our community and is out there and visible 24/7. There is no comparison at all. David is the major league and Andy is in the minors.
This bickering is really not useful at all. You should find yourself a new hobby and obsession.

Andy cares about kids and his agency is running circles around LIGALY. He's not the media whore that David is, but far more effective. David...major league? Budget under $2 million? LOL....call me when it's $10 million.

It's actually not, $2 million, but a paltry $400,000! And David and Rob make HOW much of that $? Together, they comprise, probably 30% of the agency's budget!!!! Let me write out a contribution check right now. Where is Newsday on this? How about the Long Island Press? How about Spitzer?

As one of their contract managers, LIGALY's budget is far from $400,000. Try double that and that's amazing for a GAY agency on Long Island. Not only amazing, but brilliant to bring those monies to Long Island just to serve the community. Bottom line is if you don't like it don't support it which is quite obvious with your posts. Many people do though and that is one of the things that makes this country great that we all have choices.
All your ranting and raving will get you nowhere though because out of all the agencies that I manage, LIGALY is the squeakiest clean of them all, both financially and programatically. Just suck it up and move on already and try and do something good for people like David Kilmnick and LIGALY keep doing.

Hmmm...so that's what "contract managers" do all day. Surf blogs and defend those they dole out big checks to. Interesting. Now let's look at LIGALY's funding list and figure out which "contract manager" is so seduced they can't properly enforce a contract and so bored that they have nothing better to do.

Wow, this string has gone on for almost two months....you people are really pitiful, there MUST be something better you can do with yourselves then spend two months personally attacking two people and the agency they work for.

Please take a moment to read through this whole stream and realize how pathetic it all sounds.

I just stumbled into this thread and must say I have waited a long time for someone to finally tell the truth about Mr. Kilmnick. The agency has a great mission, but BAD leadership.

Hmmm...Stumbled into the thread. Sure, and I have a bridge to sell you as well. I agree with the other writer regarding the longevity of this pathetic thread. If anything, those that have prolonged this thread go to prove the great leadership that Mr. Kilmnick has exhibited. If there was none, there would not be a two month long thread about a personal donation. As one the previous posters said, there must be something better you could do with your lives than "stumble" into a thread. Watch your feet the next time!

Uh...NewsFlash...the two-month long thread is about the ethics and practices of Kilmnick NOT his donation to John Flanagan. Not so smart are you?

Ummm...Newsflash...YOUR two month long thread has only made accusations and is full of personal vengence. There is nothing "ethical" or factual there. The only thing that you talk about his relationship with his partner and that is totally subjective.

There are far more and REAL ethical concerns in the gay community: i.e. - GALFOLI with its President and Treasurer living together and controlling all the finances with NO oversight. There is much to be found there that would not be favorable to the people involved in the organization.

The moral of the story: Be careful over what you happen to "stumble" into as the truth will come out and like all the other organizations that the GALFOLI people have been involved with in the past will suffer the same ending: CLOSURE.

I know who you are.

And your defense of David ruins your credibility ALOT.

You know dick and it's obvious from your prior postings

I'm just happy that David Kilmnick and Robert Vitelli have gotten enough press here to earn them a fine place in Google and Yahoo's search engine results. Those doing searches on either one or LIGALY will finally get a glimpse of the truth.

YEAH, the truth that a handful of mad, vicious, sick queens have nothing better to do then to attack someone in our community who has made life better for all of us.

David Kilmnick has only made life better for himself and his live-in boyfriend, Robert Vitelli, who he just promoted to be the head of fundraising for LIGALY. No one else benefits from his sick greedy quest for power, and he makes the community look bad. Really bad -- this blog being just one example. No one likes him. Even LIGALY's board members say they just tolerate him, and most people who care anything about the gay community just wish he would go away. This blog will continue to go on as long as he continues to post lies here, which will probably be a long time. Grow up, "Dr."

You are right on one thing: David Kilmnick of LIGALY "just keeps getting better" at what he does. No argument there! Hypocrisy, check. Lying about number of clients LIGALY serves, check. Hosting a great Friday night dance party complete with kids doing drugs in the parking lot, check.

This is a politcal blog folks! Spin Cycle is "Newsday's guide to New York politics and politicians".
Although David Kilmnick of LIGALY has done great work on Long Island for many people (and it actually gets clearer with every post by his opponent(s), he is not a politician. Leave this board to the discussion of the Clintons, Piro's, etc.
And a final message to David Kilmnick - keep doing what you're doing, Long Island needs you real bad!

David has done a great job, as a member of the trans community I applaud his work. I think all these negative personal attacks should STOP. It seems our community is doing more infighting and attacking each other then the religious right here on Long island has ever done. Please everyone, STOP all these personal attacks.

David is finally getting what he deserves!!! Glad to see people are finally seeing through his BS and lies.

OK BOYS ... ENOUGH!!!
Do you ever wonder why all you see is vicious and nasty posts from men? Do you ever wonder why SILK dances have such huge turnouts and co-ed dances like the ones the parade committee hold have such measly turnouts? Its because most of us don't want to be around a bunch of mean spirited men who think that this is just a "GAY MALE" community and to hell with everyone else.
You don't see women attacking each other the way the boys do on this blog. Yes some of us disagree with others but not to the hurtful extend that is done by the boys to each other in our community. Its time all of you come down off your soap boxes and realize that it's not all about you! I don't care how many kids LIGALY helped or how much money GALFOLI raised or how many people read OUTLOOK, what good does all that do when everyone is fighting? How are we suppose to move forward as a community when all of this nonsense is going on?
I'm not a fan of David or Barry or Tom. I personally think all 3 have ego's the size of Texas. They all have done good things for our community and according to some, they all have done bad things as well. Boys, lets all grow up a little, shall we?

You think all of the posts here are from men? Yikes! You're guilty of doing the very thing you accuse men of doing (that is, "who think that this is just a "GAY MALE" community"). I read about this issue on a lesbian group on Yahoo. Isn't GALFOLI closed? And who was talking about OUTLOOK? You should read the blog topic before leaping to conclusions. If you think people aren't getting along (which I agree they are not), it's much more constructive to look at the root of the problem, rather than just screaming at everyone and telling them to shut up.

Amen to that! As a lesbian, we have our infighting but we don't air it in public. These boys are real immature, but heck its a boy thing. I have been involved in many things in the Long Island community and I can attest to the problems being with the boys. When I was with the Parade committee, it was always the men who seemed to claw at others and look for power. And Susan got it right, that it comes from just a few people with big egos and if I might add little substance.
One thing I must say is that no matter how much David is attacked he acts like a gentleman and has shown that substance and that's why I respect him so much. It has been much easier though just being involved with other women although I do hear LIGALY as a mixed group is different from some of the other groups.
So please boys, grow up!

Umm...I'm all woman and think David is self-serving, divisive and destined to run LIGALY into the ground. THis ain't boy's play - it's the future of our GLBT kids.

If you are so concerned with the future of our GLBT kids you would not be posting your lies on this message board about LIGALY. The article that originally appeared in Newsday was about a donation that David made as Chair of the Gay Democrats of Suffolk County to a Republican. There must be a reason to that donation and I'm sure in due time we will all find out and when we do I have every confidence that it will be because it helped our community. If I am proven wrong, then so be it, but with David's history I don't think I will be wrong.

Whoever you are, male or female, are the only one(s) who are self-serving and divisive.
The FACT is that LIGALY is Long Island's Gay Community Gem and David Kilmnick has been the force behind it. Its obvious that this is hard to swallow for you and I feel for you - must really suck to have such difficulty with something you have absolutely no control over. Maybe you can get some counseling somewhere to deal with this very difficult, life consuming issue of living in a dream world. Sorry for the abrasiveness to all other readers, but when someone is attacking someone in our community unjustly we all need to stand up. I'm sure this won't be the last post until the few who hate and lie here get some much needed help.

"Chris", it's impossible to take your sanctimonious comments seriously when rather than simply defend David Kilmnick, his defenders constantly attack others in the community who have nothing to do with the issue. As my algebra teacher once said to me, "at least your errors are consistent," but that doesn't make you or your tactics correct.

Yeah...are we're all mentally ill if we question the ethics of a guy who is sucking up our tax dollars - sounds alot the like religious right talking about gays and lesbians.

Right

Readers of, and writers to, this electronic niche:
This is one of the administrators speaking.
For the most part folks have managed to express what is sincerely important to them politically -- without talking about what others may or may not have done sexually or financially. As for the rest: Please do not be vicious and please don't then claim "HE/SHE STARTED IT." Otherwise we're forced to call an end to this whole string. Everyone who reads this is obviously intelligent enough to understand what we're driving it. What's wrong with employing good manners to make your point and staying out of the deeply personal? Thanks in advance for your consideration.

"What's wrong with employing good manners to make your point and staying out of the deeply personal?"

Ummm..where have you been? Have you seen much of the above. There is much that is deeply personal and has nothing to do with what is important to them politically. But its about time you made an entrance into this silly blog.

I agree. While you're at it, why not erase or remove some of the other personal stuff that is included here.

Better yet, turn this thread over to Newsday's investigations team and do some digging. It's not only within Fire Departments that taxpayer money is being squandered!!!

Oh please, you so need to get a life. You cry to the administrator when something is written about you and then it gets removed from the thread - boo hoo. This is what seperates David from you - the guts to stand up and put his record and his actions out there. All you can do is make innuendos that have no factual base whatsoever. You are truly pathetic, Mr. Anonymous.

I know you are but what am I?

I thought we were done with this pathetic thread. Jeez...

That David Kilmnick supported one of Long Island's best elected officials is one of the few things of value he has accomplished.