Spin Cycle

how stupid to sat tom suozzi is running a bad campaign. talking about property taxes, failing schools, no jobs upstate, thats bad? this is why newsday stinks, because a guy running around the state , talking facts and talking the truth is bad in thier view. How about getting the deputy of mayberry to debate uozzi again and quit the stupidty!!!!

Ugh. What's really sad is that you're a Suozzi campaign worker and your best idea to get beyond Tasini in the polls and into double digits is to post on a web site. Your guy comes off as a carpetbagger. Face it.

who gives 2 sh... about Tasini? Maybe they should have asked u if u were smoking weed the other night! ps I am not a suozzi worker, get off that one.

Tasini is polling better than the Suozz.

Honey, honey, honey, it's not stupid to say Suozzi's running a bad campaign. It's fact. When you're working that hard and polling single digits, your campaign sucks. Time to face reality: most people just don't like your guy.

cant be that bad if deputy of mayberry needs to spend 10 million on commercials being so far ahead. If they debate 2 more times on TV suozzi cuts the lead bigtime. but "honey" ur boy is hiding!!!

(Midnight) Time to go home, Suozzi "fan" (paid staffer). Close the headquarter's door on the way out.

He's not "my" boy, sorry. I just enjoy skewering blind adoration on all sides, and lately you've been a shining example.

And please learn to type standard English, you're making Suozzi look like an idiot by association.

look in the mirror eyeroll. ur the idiot!!!! anyone that enjoys skewing blind ambition is a total dope!!!!

Keep your head up suozzi fan, at least your guy is double digits in the Wonkette poll.

What does it say when your campaign is such a disaster that you're in the same sentence as Cynthia McKinney? Right now, Gary DelaRaba has a higher Q-factor than Tom Suozzi. George W. Bush is actually polling better than Suozzi. But will Suozzi learn from this? No. Will he become more humble? No. Will he be compromised as County Exec as a result? Hope not, but he's getting dangerously close.

July 28, 2006 -- ALBANY
NOT so long ago, Tom Suozzi was a rising Democratic star. His spectacular flame-out as a candidate for governor can be chalked up to many things: Unbounded hubris, bordering on self-delusion, clearly tops the list.

For Suozzi, a onetime mayor of tiny Glen Cove, to have thought that being the twice-elected executive of Nassau County made him the political equal of Eliot Spitzer, the nation's most famous state attorney general, is as bizarre a political calculation as Gov. Pataki's thinking he can be the next president of the United States.

Indeed, a Siena College poll released earlier this week showed Suozzi and Pataki have something quite unwelcome in common: Both are backed by a pathetic 9 percent of their own party members in the quest for the future offices they seek.

Suozzi's not-ready-for-prime-time performance in what has become a painfully boring and repetitive countdown to the Sept. 12 primary has included such eyebrow-raising "high points" as rounding up the homeless in a Buffalo Park for a "rally" during his party's state convention, handing out bubble-gum-type playing cards with pictures of Spitzer described as an "All-Star," abandoning his pledge not to personally attack Spitzer and claiming in this week's NY1 debate that his Catholic religion prevented him from supporting same-sex marriages - even as he says he's pro-choice on abortion.

Suozzi's campaign spent $6 million during the first six months of the year and - at 9, 11 or 12 percent in the polls - got nothing whatsoever in return.

His contention that Spitzer "broke the law" by serving without fee on his millionaire father's personal and well-regarded charity (which has given away millions of dollars) was as laughable as it was irrelevant.

While Spitzer's office oversees charities in the state, including his own father's, he says he has recused himself from all matters involving the family charity - and Suozzi has produced no evidence to the contrary.

Suozzi also contended that Spitzer, in the interest of public ethics, should have resigned from the charity's board. But what difference would it have made? The charity still would have been subject to oversight by Spitzer's office.

The charity flap, Suozzi's acceptance of large campaign contributions from Nassau County vendors even as he blasts Spitzer for taking money from Albany's special-interest givers, and this week's silly dispute over whether Suozzi tried to sneak crib notes into the NY1 debate, all beg the original question regarding the failure of the Suozzi campaign.

Suozzi decided to run for governor, those close to him say, because he became deluded into thinking that his own considerable talents and his modest political successes meant he was a man of great destiny, someone who could easily become governor this year and who might one day be president, a goal he tellingly admitted in response to a "lightening round" question at this week's debate.

Suozzi - handsome, glib and the scion of a legendary Nassau County powerbroker who has eased his way through life - also became convinced that the publicity that he received by backing reforms to "fix Albany" would quickly translate into a statewide political base.

Suozzi then concluded that supposedly untapped or largely ignored Democratic constituent groups - his fellow Italo-Americans, Hispanics, other conservative-oriented Catholics, affluent suburbanites and some Wall Street executives - would rally to his side against a super-wealthy, fast-talking, Manhattan Jewish lawyer.

And he was also convinced that a sufficient number of disaffected Wall Street mega-millionaires and billionaires - still smarting from Spitzer's electrifying investigations of their business practices - could be found to bankroll his campaign.

Well, the wealthy pitched in and Suozzi raised some $10 million. But as Tom Golisano found out on three separate occasions, money alone does not a campaign make.

The hoped-for backing by disaffected Democratic constituent groups never materialized - partly because they were never really there. Italo-American voters have moved en masse to the GOP, while (as all the polls show) Hispanics, white Catholics and virtually all other Democratic voters (joined by a plurality of Republican voters) have remained fixed for months in their view that Eliot Spitzer should be their next governor.

Put another way, in the hard-ball game of statewide politics, a superstar - such as Eliot Spitzer - will always trump a rising star - like a Tom Suozzi - however the deck is cut.

That's the painful lesson the overly ambitious and self-styled man of destiny appears only now to be beginning to learn.

Post State Editor Fredric U. Dicker has covered the state capitol for more than 25 years.

hey anon. wow we u know how to cut and paste. y dont u cut and paste the daily news editorial, or the new york times? lol, ur a joke man!

suozzi "fan." We know you are a paid staffer. At least, register under a different "phony" name so your "paid" comments may be read.

the winner is suozzi--and that is the only thing he will win this year---this was not a campaign-but more like a rock star tour--and he can't figure out why people aren't buying tickets--it is clear--just because jim klurfeld and larry levy are in your corner does not a governor make--a campaign based on ego and self promotion will not go well with the democratic base-and the numbers prove it--

joe, if im a paid staffer, then what r u? a true loyal democrat that believes eliot spitzer is the one for gov? are u a insider, a lobbyist, a trial lawyer, a nassau PBA member? who are u? one thing is true, i am not a paid staffer, i have a job i love, and i support suozzi because i know he can fix albany, y are u so much against him? is it because you truely are a spitzer man, are u mad because suozzi took something away from you. Give it up Joe, lets have them debate again, and see how the polls change. U and I both know the "sherrif of wall street "cant risk it. If he had guts he'd put Suozzi away on TV, but he knows he can't and all his puppets,including urself know he can't, and all of you will regret it if he tried.

Suozzi started off the campaign by overemphasizing that he is Catholic. He did it in such a way to allude, "Eliot is a Jew." It was so transparent. We don't need a bigot in Albany. During the County Executive primary, he had his lackies intimate that Tom DiNapoli is gay and a racist. The racist intimation came from the mouth of none other than... Roger Corbin... racist-at-large.

Someone had the courage to tell it like it is. Suozzi is long on style, but short on ethics. When you say Roger Corbin is a racist at large, you obviously mean very, very large. Tell us the one of how ol' Roger tried to get County jobs for his sons.

Guess who's going down before the end of 2007. That's right... Jay Jacobs.

What do you get when you cross Tom Suozzi, Jay Jacobs, Roger Corbin, Lisanne Altmann and Dave Meijas? Political roadkill!

Keep Debating
Daily News
Jul 28, 2006

At the end of the Democratic gubernatorial debate Tuesday night, Attorney General Eliot Spitzer thanked his opponent, Nassau County Executive Tom Suozzi, for participating in what turned out to be an illuminating conversation. It was an odd moment in that Suozzi has been desperate to meet Spitzer any time, any place.

The front-runner should give Suozzi that opportunity, for there are many more topics to be hashed over for the voters.

The debate format pushed Suozzi, who is deeper in the polls than the Third Water Tunnel, and Spitzer, the presumed next governor, to articulate positions much more clearly than any political ad can. Spitzer said he supports full marriage rights for same-sex couples and the death penalty for cop killings, terrorism and crimes against humanity. Suozzi, citing his Catholic beliefs, prefers civil unions for same-sex couples and opposes the death penalty.

Pressed on how he would resolve the lawsuit over funding for New York City schools, Spitzer for the first time estimated that a settlement would cost the state between $4 billion and $6 billion. Suozzi has proposed a $2.5 billion solution. Both make a priority of property tax relief but disagree on how to deliver it. Both backed the shutdown of the Indian Point nuclear reactor and opposed citizenship checks for Medicaid applicants.

Still, there is lots more to hash over - how to fix the schools, control Medicaid costs, revive the upstate economy and clean up Albany, to mention a few. But Spitzer has so far agreed only to one more event: a three-way discussion, via satellite, that includes Republican John Faso. There will be plenty of time for debates with Faso after the Sept. 12 primary. Before that, Democratic voters would be well-served by more head-to-heads between Spitzer and Suozzi.

I know how to copy and paste too, anon!

Keep Debating
Daily News
Jul 28, 2006

At the end of the Democratic gubernatorial debate Tuesday night, Attorney General Eliot Spitzer thanked his opponent, Nassau County Executive Tom Suozzi, for participating in what turned out to be an illuminating conversation. It was an odd moment in that Suozzi has been desperate to meet Spitzer any time, any place.

The front-runner should give Suozzi that opportunity, for there are many more topics to be hashed over for the voters.

The debate format pushed Suozzi, who is deeper in the polls than the Third Water Tunnel, and Spitzer, the presumed next governor, to articulate positions much more clearly than any political ad can. Spitzer said he supports full marriage rights for same-sex couples and the death penalty for cop killings, terrorism and crimes against humanity. Suozzi, citing his Catholic beliefs, prefers civil unions for same-sex couples and opposes the death penalty.

Pressed on how he would resolve the lawsuit over funding for New York City schools, Spitzer for the first time estimated that a settlement would cost the state between $4 billion and $6 billion. Suozzi has proposed a $2.5 billion solution. Both make a priority of property tax relief but disagree on how to deliver it. Both backed the shutdown of the Indian Point nuclear reactor and opposed citizenship checks for Medicaid applicants.

Still, there is lots more to hash over - how to fix the schools, control Medicaid costs, revive the upstate economy and clean up Albany, to mention a few. But Spitzer has so far agreed only to one more event: a three-way discussion, via satellite, that includes Republican John Faso. There will be plenty of time for debates with Faso after the Sept. 12 primary. Before that, Democratic voters would be well-served by more head-to-heads between Spitzer and Suozzi.

I know how to copy and paste too, anon!

excellent point sgt. I can't wait to hear the responces to this!

The debate question is such a red herring. It is just plain dumb to waste time on debates with minor candidates who are polling in single digits. Suozzi has either been incompetent in getting his message out, or no one is interested in his message. The people of New York State have given Tom Suozzi the message that "We're not listening. Go away." Should someone be included in a debate just because he declared his candidacy? In that case, I'll collect signatures for the 2008 presidential election and insist that Hillary and McCain debate me. Hey Suozzi, shut up you spoiled little brat. New York is not interested.

bill c, ur definetly wrong. The only reason the polls are so low is that over 70% of the people still dont know enough about tom suozzi. Debates will give them that chance. ur comments are uncalled for. who do u think u are calling suozzi a little brat? ur the brat, the baby for not wanting the people to have a choice in the matter. you know as well as I do that debates would show people what suozzi is all about. even my friends that support spitzer say they should debate, because its the american way. and if u could(and i doubt it very much) get enough signatures to debate Hillary ill fight for ur right too!!! its called democracy bill c, this isnt iraq.

How wrong you are Mr. Suozzi Fan...

Debates are not held for the purpose of becoming known. Debates are for discussing issues and articulating your message to the voters. It's up to the individial candidate to become known through his or her campaign. Suozzi has failed in this. He's been all over the State, but he is not getting any traction. Why? People don't support him. So, instead he wants to get popularity by proxy by standing next to Mr. Spitzer in a debate. Sorry, but you have to earn your way in.

Suozzi had a great future. Maybe he'll recapture it. But in the meantime he's shown himself to be an immature crybaby.

By the way, how did he justify taking the Ken Langone money. Dirty money.

you are correct. here is a copy and paste of something u just wrote. "Debates are not held for the purpose of becoming known. Debates are for discussing issues and articulating your message to the voters." Im still waiting for the sherriff to "articulate", his message, not the insiders like shelly silver to tell people spitzer should be gov, lets hear y, from the candidate himself billy c, y cant u understand that? maybe its because ur the cry baby and ur just wanting things ur way, so the louder u cry, u get ur way. and about the langone money, let them debate and let suozzi tell all the voters himself(wont happen because u and the sheriff are to afraid to debate) and heres my question to u mr billy c, What do u think about a candidate thats backed a certain union, yet when asked about that unions ability to perform, ne says that "private schools" are better? Should spitzer give the ny teachers back their money??

this is part of a editorial from a syracuse newspaper, days after the "debate". I guess they are wrong like me , what do u think mr bill c?

While Suozzi hasn't done much more than Spitzer on these points, there is a profound difference: Suozzi, as the underdog, would be here in a second, ready to go, for a wide-open gubernatorial debate in Syracuse. But where is Spitzer, even as the days tick down toward the Democratic primary?

Yes, there will be a statewide "town meeting" debate on Aug. 30, according to a Spitzer spokeswoman, with questions called in from voters around the state. Still, ducking a detailed, targeted back-and-forth on specific Upstate issues reinforces an old feeling: We've become the colonies.

For a classic example, consider the way last week's debate wasn't even televised in Buffalo, which has gone through as rough a time over the past 30 years, demographically and economically, as any major city in the United States.

And because Suozzi says he'd be willing to debate in this region at any time, then maybe all good Upstate Democrats ought to say they'll give their support to him - at least until Spitzer makes the same commitment.

Sure, that debate might cost him a few percentage points in the polls to Suozzi, but it might also reveal the deeper commitment many of us hope to see. There is even a perfect venue for Spitzer and Suozzi to have at it in Syracuse: the Landmark Theatre.

That downtown jewel barely dodged a wrecker's ball. It is a beloved institution that needs inspired help to thrive as it once did, which makes it another perfect symbol for Upstate - a region desperate for the impassioned, hands-on interest of our next governor.

For Spitzer, a good start would be to meet Suozzi here for a debate.

" but hes scared" - Suozzi Fan august 1st, 2006 ( thats my take on it mr. c. ( hey how's richie?)

The irony is that I voted for Suozzi twice for County Exec. I'd still consider voting for him if he ran again despite my considerable disappointment in how he and Kim "the Monstyer" Devlin have conducted themselves in this campaign. Bottom line is he should stop pouting about not being able to debate. It's a loser's refrain. He is diminishing himself in this campaign. The funny thing is he would do a decent job as Governor. (But, he can't hold a candle to Spitzer). There's a reason why many debates require that a candidate be polling above a certain threshold. It ensures that the candidacy is serious and relevant, and that there really is voter interest. Spitzer and Suozzi have gone direct to voters. I've been at events for both. Spitzer has been able to articulate a record and a vision. It has resonated. Suozzi's has not resonated. Even after the debate he remains irrelevant. Sorry, but Suozzi hasn't earned his way in to any additional debates. He should stop his crying and return to Nassau where he can rebuild his damaged reputation.

im telling u bill c. ur unreal. he could make a good gov, but cant hold a candle to spitzer? thats an oximoran. Suozzi is a CEO, spitzer is a lawyer. Hes not crying formore debates, u and ur cronies are crying for himnot to debate!

Het Brucie, don't you have some County business to do rather than be Suozzi's designated blog responder. They don't listen to you in Long Beach anymore do they?

hey "phony" one time ally, Check out long island press and search spitzer and newsday and see for yourself what a crock of sh... you and newsday are! ps they removed the 3 dumb questions they had people voting for. thats one good step in the right direction.