Spin Cycle

nice job newsday. now thats what im talkin about.

i must admire the blind loyalty of "suozzi fan", however at 9:01, on the evening of sept 13th when all the networks report that spitzer has taken tom to the woodshed, i wonder what explination will be offered, or will the "suozzi fan" demand a recount

ill make a bet with you mr. greene. u get spitzer to debate mr suozzi 3 more times like he should so everyone will clearly know what he( the deputy) is all about, and if he takes suozzi to the woodshed ill be the first to acjnowlegde he won fare and square, but if he keeps hiding out and ducking like shelly and joe are telling him too, then i guess i wont have to. and about me being a blind loyalist, what the heck is ur motivation for supporting spitzer? Everyone knows suozzi has more experience in government. come on mr. greene, ur gonna sit there where ever u are and tell me spitzer is more qualified just because he was attorny general. U ever hear of the expression experience money cant buy? well thats what suozzi has over ur sherrif, experience and even u cant argue that. watch out who u call "blind". Ur having trouble seeing for urself.

u cant get the new york times article on the site so i copied and pasted it for people to see. He Shoots, He Scores
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Published: July 30, 2006
Long Islanders who know Thomas Suozzi know that his candidacy for the Democratic nomination for governor of New York could be a credible one, but for the following: nobody knows him, his ads have been ineffective and he has been unable to shorten the overwhelming distance between him and Attorney General Eliot Spitzer in the polls.

But in their debate last week — an hour of rapid fire sparring that somehow generated both heat and light — Mr. Suozzi attacked the front running Mr. Spitzer with a punchy effectiveness rarely seen in a single digit candidate.

Mr. Spitzer punched back, and the voters won. New Yorkers outside Long Island who had known nothing about Mr. Suozzi or had only a hazy notion of where he and Mr. Spitzer stood on the issues got inklings, at least, as well as a sense of whose ideas might be worth listening to, and where the troubling gaps and lingering questions might lie. The debate did a lot to pull the campaign into focus.

Voters deserve to see Mr. Spitzer tested, and Mr. Suozzi has now shown himself perfectly capable of doing that. When asked — by Mr. Suozzi — why Mr. Suozzi should not be governor, Mr. Spitzer had no answer. Mr. Suozzi effectively harried Mr. Spitzer over his refusal to hire outside counsel to represent the state when he disagreed with the governor.

Mr. Spitzer’s counterattacks, meanwhile, distorted Mr. Suozzi’s record — Nassau County’s fiscal recovery was not, as Mr. Spitzer claimed, merely a case of raising taxes, and Mr. Suozzi is not the simplistic tax-and-spender that Mr. Spitzer made him out to be.

In our ideal primary campaign, the candidates would revisit and amplify those and other points of disagreement. Mr. Suozzi, too, would clarify his own positions — on why, say, a mere $2.5 billion would be enough to satisfy a court order to increase financing for New York City schools, when court estimates of what the schools need each year are easily twice that amount.

Regrettably, though, Tuesday’s debate was to have been the first and last of the campaign, and now that it is out of the way, Mr. Spitzer may find it possible simply to coast on to November, ignoring all the underdog yapping coming from the Suozzi camp. And while Mr. Suozzi may have sunk some baskets on Tuesday, he will need a lot of unanswered three-pointers to win the game.

The small knot of Suozzi supporters who cheered and sang outside the debate hall at Pace University were a telling indication of the state of his candidacy. They had plenty of boisterous energy, but they also had a lot of unused campaign signs, which they dumped into piles when they went to a nearby bar for a post-debate party.

The plain truth is that Mr. Suozzi has so far not fulfilled his promise to mount a potent challenge to Mr. Spitzer, or even to be a speed bump on Mr. Spitzer’s flower-strewn path to the governor’s mansion. Even so, it is hard for us to tell him not to stick with it. And while few believe that Mr. Suozzi has any real chance of becoming governor, Mr. Suozzi himself seems to think he does. As the curious, substance-hungry voters who tuned in Tuesday night discovered, that’s not a bad thing at all.

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like we used to say in brooklyn--put up or shut up--do you guys want points, odds or over-under--anyway you cut it spitzer wins and wins big--newsday has a dog in this fight and that is suozzi--it helps to sell papers to have a home town guy running for higher office plus the klurfeld,levy, suozzi alliance is common knowledge--but despite newsday spitzer wins big and suozzi can then move on to pursue his next elected position, the presidency

like we used to say in brooklyn--put up or shut up--do you guys want points, odds or over-under--anyway you cut it spitzer wins and wins big--newsday has a dog in this fight and that is suozzi--it helps to sell papers to have a home town guy running for higher office plus the klurfeld,levy, suozzi alliance is common knowledge--but despite newsday spitzer wins big and suozzi can then move on to pursue his next elected position, the presidency

Hmmm...anyone read the Comptroller's warning about Nassau County?

Sucks for Suozzi.

P.S. The Presidency? God save us if he ever gets that notion in his head.

mr greene and tongue in cheek, u remind me of a movie i once saw. Dumb and dumber!!!

"Dumb and Dumber?" Honey, let me show you something.

"ill be the first to acjnowlegde (acknowledge, perhaps?) he won fare (might I suggest fair?) and square, but if he keeps hiding out and ducking like shelly and joe are telling him too (to?)"

Not to judge or anything, but I'd be much more apt to trust your political judgment if you could spell.

Although, going by Suozzi's repeated (and incorrect, just in case you don't know) usage of "the difference between Eliot and I" during the debate, I would guess you're just following your role model.

relax tongue-in-cheek. You must be an ela teacher. spelling never counts in im's or blogs. dont u even know that?(i could have said "no" that?) And ur responce to my last comment makes u dumber not dumb.

haha...suozzi fan...he/she's not grading you. i think he/she was just trying to say that your spelling abilities speak volumes about your intelligence...

or lack thereof...

and how that's obviously correlated to your political judgments.

For all to know-

Suozzi fan is Bruce Nyman. A guy who can't hold a real job and tries to pressure organization's looking to do business with the County to hire him as a lobbyist.

Suozzi Fan you have been outed. Suozzi fan is Bruce Nyman. A guy who can't hold a real job and tries to pressure organization's looking to do business with the County to hire him as a lobbyist.

Hey that girl, anyone that judges a persons intelligence on how they spell on a blog, and anyone that trys to explain why that person is being judged is a real idiot.( I spelled idiot correctly i believe, or in blog terms I could have wrote Bleve) And if im bruce nyman, one time ally has to be one of the back stabbing legislators that havent realized yet that they won on suozzi's coat tails. The only legislator to win on his/her own is peter schmidt and hes republican. Dont hold your breath on sept 12, 2006 and think suozzi is not gonna make waves. Let me give you a name from the past that everyone including back stabbing one time ally probably thought was in like flin just like spitzer. Are you ready, here it is its TOM DINAPOLI, stick that in your hat that girl and so called ally.

I think Suozzi Fan just admitted, albeit in a convoluted manner, that he really is Bruce Nyman. Way to go One-Time Ally!

Not that Nyman should be excluded from the blog, but it is interesting to know what important assignments Suozzi has given him.

Nyman is right about something, though. Peter Schmitt has quite a following.

hey , y are u called hammer? We all would like to know, lol. and do u think ur childish ways is gonna make me reveal who i really am? give it up hammer and all u spitzer cronies. Check out long island press, search spitzer and newsday, and see why your so called "crusader" is the golden boy you all are making him out to be. The only guy with brains on this blog is myself and a tangled web. The truth always hurts!

correction, it should read, IS NOT the golden boy

Interesting article in the long island press. Wonder if new york times might want a copy of it? Instead of picking on everything suozzi does newsday, why dont you tell your buddy on the front page of a sunday edition that he SHOULD debate more and let the people decide, not the insiders, including yourself!

Hard to fathom that anyone thinks Newsday is anything but a shill for Suozzi. Klurfeld and the editorial board have been touting his campaign since before the last county executive election.

And it's not just the editorial board. Joye Brown and others seem to have difficulty displaying their Suozzi colors.

Finally, as it has become apparent that Suozzi has no chance and has failed to capture the interest of voters despite galavanting all over the state (instead of attending to business in Nassau... although Arda would make a helluva county executive) Newsday is calling off the dogs a bit. Perhaps neutrality will be next?

bill c, did u read about the newsday scandel? Go read it before you comment back. Its funny how newsday went from pro suozzi at one point to sending their online readers to an editorial of negativity in the post about suozzi. Oh yeah I forget, The new york post is such a great newspaper that the front cover of yesterdays edition had a cover story on NY mets catcher Paul Loduca cheating on his wife. Oh yeah journalism at its best, thanks newsday.